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chaosking202의 댓글

Fiery Warhorse's Reins = 0.7%
Reins of the Raven Lord = 0.9% * 7 days = 6.3%
Swift Zulian Tiger = 0.7% * 2 days = 1.4%
Swift White Hawkstrider = 2% * 7 days = 14%
Swift Razzashi Raptor = 1% * 2 days = 2%

If you have a druid with you and you run each instance every reset you have a 24.4% chance per week to pick up a new mount if you have none of them. Thats a pretty high chance to get a fancy new mount. Good luck on the drops.

267546의 댓글

Tss hate this site with retard comments, and good one being downrated ofc the OP (chaosking202) was right...Listen to yourself Kamael dude, if there is 100 mounts with 1% chance each, of course you have 99.9% that one of them drop... but 100% theorically but not really obviously, it doesnt mean "if I dont drop it it means I failed my maths" it doesnt say "since it's 100% it have to drop"...
And yes with the 24.4% it doesnt say "I WILL drop one mount every 4 weeks with a certitude of 100%", not anymore than "I will drop the Zulian tiger in 100 kills"...

so if you don't like his additions, just don't use any single percentage because it's all the same PROBABILITY, EVENTUALLY, MAYBE, IF IM LUCKY, IN AVERAGE...

Yeah don't insult him, because there is nothing to insult but you...Go back to school and learn the chapter "probabilities"...you try to correct people when you have no idea what you are talking about yourself just to think like you could be useful
+8 rating damn, and lol....

People will probably downrate me because yeah my post sucks, but only tells the truth, if you prefer plus-rating good writed content, with false text, then it's your problem not mine...because me and the OP knows what chances we stand to loot thoses mounts...

And just because your brain sucks Kamael I will finish with this example of 24.4% so it says 24.4 *4 ~= 100% meaning that in 1 month there is high chances to drop one mount...now with your little brain of gnome, did you forget that this include the Hawkstrider, and do you really think that in 1 month, running it every day it won't drop ? So was this percentage so cakish after all?

Cheers chaosking202, mate, your post was good. (even better than mine)

(And the post just after yours is rubish too "Which in return COULD mean that you could get 100 mounts after 100 kills ;)".... 100 mounts in 100 kills OF EACH of the mounts holders, so 100*100=10000 boss kills to get your 100 mounts, newbie.... and again AVERAGLY since you could probably get twice of the same kind...

298612의 댓글

I dont beleive this crap, i had to make an account to post a reply to this idiotic post and the replying comments. I barely passed prob's but i know the basics. Kamael was by far the closest to the solution. Ninkosen and Chaosking you're a retard at math.

Listen to yourself Ninkosen dude, if there is 100 mounts with 1% chance each, of course you have 99.9% that one of them drop... but 100% theorically but not really obviously,

There is a 100% chance to drop, where is this 99.9%? Take a quarter, one side heads, one side tails. Flip it, there is a 100% chance it will be heads or tails. (If someone said it could land on the ridged edge...) 100 mounts, 1% chance each, 100% one mount will drop.

Now take some dice. 1-6 on there. Roll it 6 times. Will the numbers 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, and 6 pop up for sure? Chaosking says for sure!

You can't take 1/8 a chance, times 8 rolls, and assume your chance will pop up. You can however say 1/8 green, 1/8 chance red, and say 2/8 or 1/4 (for advanced 2nd grade algebra) a chance red or green will pop up.

Another coin example... Imagine you flip a coin 9 times in a row, every time it lands on heads. What is the chance on the 10th flip it lands on heads? For the answer, scroll down
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50% zomg!

Oh and no one was insulting anyone until I posted :D If someone saying you are wrong is insulting... Then a few of these posters would have commited suicde by now.

274985의 댓글

"Listen to yourself Kamael dude, if there is 100 mounts with 1% chance each, of course you have 99.9% that one of them drop..."
its right ONLY if all of this 100 mounts were in loot table of one mob and something would have to drop, and since they are not from one mob, each mount droping (boss killed) represents diferent event. Its like doing /roll 100x times: previous roll have no impact on next one (it wont lower your chance to get 100 in next roll and it either wont make it more probable). Probability that a mount would drop wont change every time you kill it so you cant add it together every time it doesnt drop. Thats why:
chance for swift hawkstrider to drop on the first kill = 0.2%
chance for swift hawkstrider to drop on the 2nd kill = 0.2%
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chance for swift hawkstrider to drop on the 50th kill = 0.2%
chance for swift hawkstrider to drop this week, next week, next month, next year = 0.2% for each kill

If you really want to count total probability for a mount to drop of X bosses you should take percent chance of droping of most probable mount and... ta da! thats the number you are looking for! this is your chace to get a new mount of one round of killing these bosses...

Killing them once a day for a week wont change anything in terms of probability... its like you could /roll seven times trying to get 100

and for the record, nikosen ("but 100% theorically but not really obviously, it doesnt mean "if I dont drop it it means I failed my maths" it doesnt say "since it's 100% it have to drop"...") 100% in terms of probability means it WILL happend (or you made a mistake in your calculations).
"now with your little brain of gnome, did you forget that this include the Hawkstrider, and do you really think that in 1 month, running it every day it won't drop"
it really doesnt have to drop since probability in this case wont stack and every time you are killing kael in order to get this mount you have same chances to see it droping (and as far as i know hawkstrider doesnt have 100% chances to drop)

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Chaosking is talking about odds, not chance. To use the coin analogy: If you flip a coin two times and get a heads twice, the next time you flip you still have a 50% chance of getting heads, but the probability of that happening is less (12.5%).

Edit: Huzzah for splitting hairs over terminology and down-rating over it!

220871의 댓글

The chance and the odds are actually the same as is probability, The odds, chance, and probability that a coin will land on heads is 50%. The chance of a coin landing on heads three times in a row is 12.5%, same with the probability.

If you flip a coin two times and get a heads twice, the next time you flip you still have a 50% chance of getting heads, but the probability of that happening is less (12.5%).

You removed the chance circumstance out of the other tosses which is why your answer is different and wrong. For example
If you flip a coin two times and get a heads twice, the next time you flip there is a 50% probability of it landing on heads, but the chance of that happening is less (12.5%).

304423의 댓글

bla , bla , bla ...

247810의 댓글

Uh this is the topic for the tiger right? why are you guys talking about the ravenlord mount?

351775의 댓글

I think it looks cool i would love to have both the tiger and the ravenlord but hands down tiger looks the best.

179785의 댓글

Honestly..as a horde player this has to be the only mount i really WANT since it is the only cat mount available to the horde aside from the spectral tiger from the TCG which is even lower than the drop rate of this zulian tiger.. whereas the alliance can get the raptor from ZG and also get the swift white hawkstrider from heroic MGT. Granted you dont see many alliance running around on a raptor but MANY of them have the white hawkstrider.. however you dont see many horde running around on a cat :)

119078의 댓글

Surprised this hasn't been mentioned yet. This link is the feat of strength rewarded for obtaining the Swift Zulian Tiger.

DarkElfIT의 댓글

If anyone was using the old 'tree stump to force boss into p2' trick. it was fixed in 3.3, now you will be teleported back on to the ground if the boss and his adds can't melee you. One of the 'undocumented' fixes in the patch.

This includes for Pet classes (Hunter/Warlock) if your pet gets blinded since it is an temporary aggro dump on that target. Grab a friend to help you farm unless you are a plate melee class.

493111의 댓글

With the removal of ZG in cata, making the tiger impossible to obtain. I demand this FoS be made into a meta-FoS for being a FoS thats doubly impossible! also i just got it today after 2 years so i wanna be an extra special snowflake

156062의 댓글

as of today 11/16/10 (US date format), patch 4.0.3 went live making this achievement and mount no longer atainable.

i myself have not logged into the game so i cannot confirm this change has been made.

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/1159455 - blizz post on 4.0.3 being live

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=27291810112&sid=1 - blizz post on changes in 4.0.3, including the removal of Swift Razzashi Raptor and Swift Zulian Tiger.

edited for clarity

edit: as of 11/23/10, ZG has been removed and the mounts are no longer available. congrats to those who recieved the drop.

Drathellia의 댓글

I cant understand why blizzard has removed or changed the mounts in the game, like the broom for example.
I was looking forward to getting this mount at some time or another... kinda disappointing.

Please stop taking away the cool stuff in this game. cant understand why they're taking some of the cool older missions and reputations from other factions, like the zalandar, u can get from in game. They took away the need to get keys for the dungeons for the most part, and took away the key master achievement and others.... stop changing our game so much when it was already great to begin with. should be making the stuff already in the game work with new stuff without getting rid of it.plz.

Commack의 댓글

The thing that is disappointing for the people who don't have the tiger is the panther. The panther replaces the tiger and should have looked much better than it does. You have to think of it like this....the panther is replacing a land mark for WoW. The tiger is like a legend of a mount. More time should have went into the panther before making it the new ZG mount. It should have armor, and glowing eyes just like the tiger. It's honestly a sorry excuse of a replacement. I really do feel bad for the people who have to settle with it. I have the new panther myself and I hardly use it. Well, that's because I have the tiger.

Guldoran의 댓글

This mount should not have been removed from the game. It was a direct insult and slap in the face to every player that tried to get it and invested a lot of time doing so. There is absolutely no reason whatsoever that the old ZG should not still be available in the game with the help of the Keepers of Time. They have NPCs in certain areas that let you go back and experience things that have long been gone but yet they can't put a Keepers of Time NPC outside of ZG for those who weren't lucky enough to get the mount before they thought it was a good idea to destroy the hopes of everyone who tried to get it or want to get it today? I am a mount collector and nothing annoys and disappoints me more than anything in this game than seeing stuff like this where you simply cannot get a mount because it didn't drop for you before Blizzard decided to remove it. IT'S A RAID MOUNT FOR CRYING OUT LOUD! It's not like its supposed to only be for certain people. There is absolutely no reason whatsoever that this mount should not be obtainable in the game anymore. I don't care if it has turned into a feat of strength for those who have it. The mount should NOT have become that in the first place because it is a RAID DROP MOUNT. Bring it back Blizzard because there is no reason at all that this mount should be removed from the game.

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