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20588의 댓글

Paladin tier 6 retribution,... and in my opinion these set bonuses are a joke compared to the complete awesomeness of the tier 6 healing set bonus. I hope these aren't the definitive bonuses.

littlidabbi의 댓글

If it were on every attack u gain 50 mana it would be pretty nice, but just a chance is pretty pathetic. And the HoW bonus is to say very useless as its extremely situational.

Slange의 댓글

Proc-chance of the 2-piece set bonus is exactly 20%.

45660의 댓글

it certain looks like, to me at least (by taking a look at the lightbringer battlegear and the skyshatter raiment), that blizzard is trying to discourage retribution specced paladins and restoration specced shamans, turning them into battle-priests and battle-mages respectively.

Flolah의 댓글

If they made it where HoW didn't reset the swing counter, that would actually be awesome for bosses once in Execute range, if you have tons of extra mana. Still very, very situational.

12678의 댓글

4 piece set bonus is worthless, fairly well itemized other than that but they could loose some +dmg/heal for more melee hit rating imo.

21885의 댓글

There are plenty of other pieces to replace the Hit rating that isn't on there if you are concerned about it. I'll take the spell damage, personally. :) I am glad to see some + hit rating though too.

Also, keep in mind they are Increasing the damage of HoW in the next patch, so with all the spell damage included I am guessing you could possibly crit upwards of 4-5,500 damage with that or more. (with judgment of crusader applied too). That's a heavy amount of damage applied every few seconds. At level 60 my HoW was critting for 2,900+ quite often, so I have no doubt the new rank, increased spell damage, increased damage from the new santity aura, and then 10% more on top of that, stacked with vengeance x3 (new patch ability again) it can hit pretty hard.

On the PTR it hits for over 1,000 right now for me, without Crusader judged and I only have 240 spell damage. I have not crit with it though because I rarely use it, which unfortunately, in the end, makes it a pretty useless bonus, as said.

However, if timed correctly you can start the casting as you attack with Seal of command, which means after you hit them with SoC it throws the hammer immediatly. (It continues to cast during the attack animation). That throws on some pretty nice damage if you can get them below 20% fast, especially, because you can SoC hit, stun, judge, soc hit, cast HoW, typically dead by then, if it crits, for sure. I do this quite often. It works best if the target is stunned, or attacking the tank like it should be in PvE.

The 50 mana return is questionable as most Retribution paladins use 2hand weapons with slow attack speeds, but any mana return helps, especially with long fights. It will add up in the end at least.

26387의 댓글

Video of all Tier 6 armor sets in action: http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=97.0

Helot의 댓글

At least the 2-piece Bonus's are slowly improving.

Justicar: 15% bonus to JotC
Crystalforge: Judgements cost 35 less mana
Lightbringer: 20% chance-on-hit to gain 50 mana.

Who knows, maybe the tier 7 and on will have good 4 peice bonus's too. Anything can happen.

39703의 댓글

This would be an amazing set for SoR- Reckoning Pally, giving them that chance to regain mana to continue to spam judgements, and off heal in a battleground, really great all around.

Helot의 댓글

I find it quite odd that both the rogue, hunter and warrior sets include Ignore Armor effects, which are a direct damage increase for melee classes, and yet it is non-existant for us.

Rogue have 350, Hunters have ~250, and Warriors have ~405.

One could argue that since we do have a spell-damage aspect as well, it's sorta overkill to ignore armor, but the majority of your damage is from Physical, and hence a buff there would be appreciated.

It seems as though all the 'pure' physical DPS classes get this ignore armor, while the hybrid (Shammy/Druid/Pally) don't.

53225의 댓글

Just another note, IMO the hammer of wrath set bonus is actually quite useful, assuming that 1: you're raiding black temple/mount hyjal anyways, since this is tier 6 and drops in those raids; and 2: since you are raiding such high-end instance, the monsters have a LOT more HP, thus meaning they'll be below 20% for longer, and a lot of the time that's the most crucial moment in the battle. So when, let's say Illidan for the hell of it, is below 20%, he's gonna be there a long while, and a retro pally with 4 pieces of this set + avenger's wrath available would be able to rake out an UNREAL amount of damage, at a time when it's needed quite badly. Remember this is a PVE set. If you want godly PVP gear, go check out the merciless gladiator's vindication set, which has a huge cooldown reduction for Hammer of Justice (stun) which in PVP is incredibly useful.

47772의 댓글

In response to buffs of HOW, I would just like to say that I'm pretty sure that HOW scales with AP. Therefore with the buffs+such it will be a very strong move that will be the paladin execute.

In terms of the set, Compared to healing it should be better, Bliz doesnt like ret. With 5 yellow sockets to the set you can scale your crit chance amazingly.

T6 is the first 5 armor set in which all pieces of armor are able to have gems in them.

Of course, this set will be hard to get having it drop from high-end dungeons that few guilds have experianced so far.

And the reputation of a ret pallie raiding in high end raids is staggeringly low and should be higher... (I support ret raiding !,,!(O_O)!,,!)

I, myself am a ret paladin and give this set a thumbs up.

20% chance to get 50 mana is great. Will give us the right to use JotC.

102243의 댓글

The surprising thing about this set is that the season 3 arena suit has 215 strength total. That's probably because of the spell damage reworking Blizzard did. They will have to rework this set in order to make this a more effective set of gear.

I have tried this set in the 2.2 PTR's and the 50 Mana on melee hit is fairly often (probably more often than Judgment of Wisdom) so I wouldn't criticize the 2-set bonus too early or if you haven't gotten any pieces yet.

The 4-set bonus, however, needs a total reworking. Hammer of Wrath doesn't deal all that much damage unless it crits and only works when an opponent is below 20%. Should be more like "Increases damage dealt by your Crusader Strike ability by 10%" imo.

pibbz의 댓글

Compared to the awesomeness of for example Mage (5% dmg to primary nuke for all specs), or rogue (6% to primary attack), druid 5% crit for Starfire (primary nuke), our bonus is nothing but a joke.

Really hope they re-design the stats and bonuses synchronous to the change in retri-mechanics.

mgp84의 댓글

Just curious here, but do any other paladins notice the lack of agility in this set? I mean sure it has critical strike rating, but it doesn't scale with kings AND agility has more uses outside of a raid environment. Just curious though.

rayzorium의 댓글

Season 3 ret set looks better by leaps and bounds. What a slap in the face.

83251의 댓글

This set changed in 2.4 the set gets 3 new pieces with haste rating. The set no longer adds bonus healing / damage to you. The spellups got converted to str & crit rating.

I think it gets a lot better =). Also other sets stats changed.

Dalus의 댓글

Chestpiece drops off Illidan Stormrage in Black Temple (End boss)

Gloves drop off Azgalor in Mount Hyjal (Fourth boss)

Helm drops off Archimonde in Mount Hyjal (End boss)

Leggings drop off The Illidari Council in Black Temple (Eighth boss)

Shoulders drop off Mother Shahraz in Black Temple (Seventh boss)

Bracers drop off Kalecgos in Sunwell Plateau (First boss)

Belt drops off Brutallus in Sunwell Plateau (Second boss)

Boots drop off Felmyst in Sunwell Plateau (Third boss)

Corbon의 댓글

Funny to see all the reworked stuff, especially regarding Retadins, yet the socket boni remain untouched. This goes for all pieces with a socket bonus. See http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28741 for example.

Faylynn의 댓글

This is a good set for the Protection Paladin, although the way of obtaining it is rather difficult. I think having this set over any other is more beneficial for the protection side of Paladins. Holy and Rets do have good gear sets as well, but I honestly think that Prot has a better chance of surviving then any other of them do with this armor set.

Athene의 댓글

There's no internal cooldown on the 2-set bonus, right?
Can anyone tell exactly what it proccs off?

If there's no cd, and it proccs of all melee, CS, seals and judgements, then in theory it can procc at a maximum of once every 0,8 seconds (perfect timing, no global cds).
With the 20% proccrate it would take avg 4 seconds between each procc.
50 mana each procc makes that an avg of 12,5 m\s, or 62,5 mp5.

The manausage of a retri, calculated on benediction, CS, SoB and JoB is at ~59 m\s, or 295 mp\5.
So best case is this 2-set bonus reduces your manausage by ~21%.
It would be less in actual use, and the importance of your mana regen depends alot of the fight. Some fights really challenge your manausage, while others dont.
I would prefer a bonus giving damage, but I'm not sure I want to complain either.

137653의 댓글

Hey guys, i was thinking it would look awesome with this:

http://www.wowhead.com/?item=23455

It would look better in blue but it still looks great and the enchantments are good for Holy Paladins and it also does nice damage.

And I know this is a retribution set but even thougth the Holy Paladins also need mana and I for examle find retribution powers very usefull even being a Holy Paladin.

FinnrSlayer의 댓글

Tier 6 For Dummies!(Where they drop)
Head Piece - Hyjal Summit - Archimonde
Gloves Piece - Hyjal Summit - Azgalor
Shoulders Piece - Black Temple - Mother Shahraz
Leggings Piece - Black Temple - Illidari Council
Chest Piece - Black Temple - Illidan Stormrage
Bracer Piece - Sunwell Plateau - Kalecgos
Belt Piece - Sunwell Plateau - Brutallus
Boots Piece - Sunwell Plateau - Felmyst

______ of The Forgotten Conquerer - Priest - Paladin - Warlock
______ of The Forgotten Protector - Warrior - Hunter - Shaman
______ of The Forgotten Vanquisher - Mage - Rogue - Druid

You can exchange the Tokens to gear at Enterance of Hyjal Summit.
Also Exchangable for Season 2 Parts or S3 BG parts (in the new daily island)

Shatterer의 댓글

Probably named after Uther the Lightbringer (first paladin, and the greatest of them all)

Karoxen의 댓글

Ret changes have made the 6 piece bonus much, much better. AV glyph+ Sactified Wrath+ This. Particularly excellent on bosses that enrage low health.

daryon의 댓글

I just need to say this " This is the most loremade set for a class in the game so far !" , it isnt a coincidence that they choose to use this set looks for Highlord Tirion Fordring , the book and the hammer on each shoulder pad is just incredible look .
GJ Blizzard ,as a proud owner of this set in TBC i can only say , give us more of this great things .

456584의 댓글

i want it so if u u play on carine plz pst i am always lookin for help his name is azorath

Synthunas의 댓글

Tier 6 Paladin, Warlock and Preist Armour Token Drops.

Chestguard of the Forgotten Conqueror

Illidan Stormrage
<The Betrayer>
Black Temple - 66%

Pauldrons of the Forgotten Conqueror

Mother Shahraz
Black Temple - 66%

Leggings of the Forgotten Conqueror

Gathios the Shatterer
Black Temple - 34%

Veras Darkshadow
Black Temple - 34%

Lady Malande
Black Temple - 29%

Gloves of the Forgotten Conqueror

Azgalor
Hyjal Summit 62%

Helm of the Forgotten Conqueror

Archimonde
Hyjal Summit - 68%

Belt of the Forgotten Conqueror

Brutallus
Sunwell Plateau - 66%

Grand Warlock Alythess
Sunwell Plateau - 17%

Lady Sacrolash
Sunwell Plateau

Bracers of the Forgotten Conqueror

Grand Warlock Alythess
Sunwell Plateau - 12%

Lady Sacrolash
Sunwell Plateau - 11%

Sathvarr the Corruptor
Sunwell Plateau - ?%

Boots of the Forgotten Conqueror

Felmyst
Sunwell Plateau - 59%

Lady Sacrolash
Sunwell Plateau - 16%

Grand Warlock Alythess
Sunwell Plateau - 13%

867336의 댓글

Try that on Worgen Male on 3D viewer.Its awesome

873703의 댓글

I wish i could be granted 10 mana... :(

Alexkuz의 댓글

Idk why but after I updated to Cataclysm the Set's Shoulders look really silly. The Light is just a square of Yellow, the smooth change in color which makes the light look like light is gone. What should I do?

freimensch의 댓글

Can anyone recommend good 2-hander to match this set ?

Ashbringer will be cool, but it's not in the game :)

891916의 댓글

I really want this set for transmogging but I don't know how difficult it is to get.. Anyone know?

Tarasiy의 댓글

My favourite paladin's set))

990314의 댓글

Whats the best looking shield with this set?

jojokim의 댓글

what sword or mace is god for with a shield one hand

1080974의 댓글

I recommend 가치 없는 마술사의 망토 for this set.

playerofwow의 댓글

Only if WoW could bump the stats from tier 6 to tier 14 i would use all the time.

Bogdanov89의 댓글

Paladins looking to obtain this armor can do so rather easily - all except 3 bosses died very easily to my paladin's mighty attacks!

All the pieces drop from bosses (or from trash) in Black Temple, Battle for Mount Hyjal (Caverns of Time) and the Sunwell.

As a lvl90 (ilvl 489) the only bosses i had any trouble with were:

1. Brutallus in Sunwell - i suggest going Prot for this one, he stacks a mighty debuff on you that will make him hit for over 200,000 damage. Divine Shield removes the debuff.

2. Felmyst in Sunwell - she has an air phase where she spews green poison in a straight line across the battlefield. If this hits you it will mind control you, and if you are the only one in the raid it will instantly kill you. I suggest going Retri for mass dps.

3. Gurtogg Bloodboil in Black Temple - go Prot for this one, he stacks a nasty bleed debuff on you that requires constant self healing, and a ~6 second stun (can't be trinketed). Divine Shield removes the debuff.

* There is a fragile ranger trash mob in Sunwell called Slayer that applies a physical DoT that drains a % of your max health.
You MUST either remove the debuff or heal - it does over 100% max health damage.

I suggest taking talents/glyphs that will provide you with the most burst - secondary option would be self healing.

NOTE: For some unknown reason, the set's boots and belt (it is red instead of blue) do NOT go with the looks of the rest of the Tier 6 set. You need to obtain non-set items called "Pearl Inlaid Boots" and "Girdle of Hope" to have the adequate blue looking set.
Also note that the set's Gloves fully hide the Bracers - as far as looks go, this set's bracers will never be visible if you are also "wearing" the set's gloves.

Gryhut의 댓글

For those working on transmog and who are running the raids to get the old Lightbringer Raiment tier 6 raid set here's a list of where do go, who to kill, what to pick up and where to return:

Ofc this also applies for the Lightbringer Armor and the Lightbringer Battlegear since they are all the same :D

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Head:

Exchanged for: Helm of the Forgotten Conqueror
Exchanged from: Tydormu
Dropped by: Archimonde
Where: Hyjal Summit

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Shoulders:

Exchanged for: Pauldrons of the Forgotten Conqueror
Exchanged from: Tydormu
Dropped by: Mother Shahraz
Where: Black Temple

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Chest:

Exchanged for: Chestguard of the Forgotten Conqueror
Exchanged from: Tydormu
Dropped by: Illidan Stormrage
Where: Black Temple

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Wrists:

Exchanged for: Bracers of the Forgotten Conqueror
Exchanged from: Theremis
Dropped by: Grand Warlock Alythess and Lady Sacrolash
Where: Sunwell Plateau

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Hands:

Exchanged for: Gloves of the Forgotten Conqueror
Exchanged from: Tydormu
Dropped by: Azgalor
Where: Hyjal Summit

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Belt:

Exchanged for: Belt of the Forgotten Conqueror
Exchanged from: Theremis
Dropped by: Grand Warlock Alythess and Lady Sacrolash and Brutallus
Where: Sunwell Plateau

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Legs:

Exchanged for: Leggings of the Forgotten Conqueror
Exchanged from: Tydormu
Dropped by: Gathios the Shatterer and Lady Malande and Veras Darkshadow
Where: Black Temple

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Boots:

Exchanged for: Boots of the Forgotten Conqueror
Exchanged from: Theremis
Dropped by: Grand Warlock Alythess and Lady Sacrolash and Felmyst
Where: Sunwell Plateau

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Hope that its helpful for some of you, and if nothing else makes a central searching link for those looking to get this set which is quite popular, and lets face it - one of WoW's Bests! (let me know if I made a mistake)

736173의 댓글

I have recently come across a decent Set for transmog.

You take the Lightbringer Battlegear, add Honor Hold Tabard, Add Shroud of Luminosity or Cape of the Unworthy Wizard and you have a set of armor, tabard and cloak that match in color scheme. I am not a major fan of the "plate" helmet which does nothing to protect from arrows and other such sharp objects so I replaced it with Helmet of Winged Triumph the color matches well enough and it is a full plate helmet, if you do not like the match with shoulders you could substitute them for Pauldrons of Winged Triumph thus keeping the entire golden avenger theme, but adding a twist of golden angel wings. I use this on my retribution paladin with Stormrune Edge as the blade matches the theme perfectly. I have yet to find a shield/sword combo for protection and holy sets, but when I do I will update this.

Mahad993의 댓글

I'm personally using 우서의 요대 as a waist, it matches better than any other in my opinion. As for the weapon, 아폴리온 - 영혼의 분쇄자 is also a great choice since it has the matching colors and adds a bit unusual look to the set.

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