15299의 댓글

Pretty much a constant extra 35 damage bonus under normal raiding circumstances, no hidden cooldown. Equivalent to around 175 AP. Affected by things like crit, armor mitigation, etc. A solid hunter trinket imo.

frmorrison의 댓글

This is a weak Hunter trinket. The proc affects most shots, so Steady, Multi, Arcane, Silencing and Aimed.

11618의 댓글

Anyone have any drop info on this?

47392의 댓글

Yeah, drops from Al'ar in The Eye

Estala의 댓글

I picked this trinket up last night and I will agree it does not appear to affect auto shot. At a glance I noticed no increase in auto shot damage while the buff was up and my "damage" tooltip on my character sheet also did not increase. Arcane shot tooltip did show an increase though.

I plan to test this later with a ranged weapon with no damage range to see if that is truly the case.

57973의 댓글

I got it and tested with a starter bow/low level arrows and it doesnt increase the autoshot damage :(

I hope that is bugged and soon to be fixed else this trinket isnt that imba as it looked at the first sight

Kharthus의 댓글

2.2 patch notes:

• Talon of Al'ar: The bonus damage to all Shot abilities now provides the full bonus to Scatter Shot and Silencing Shot.

Was it working at all? And no mention of auto-shot. :(

56783의 댓글

The Item was never meant to increase Auto-Shot damage, according to this Blizzard post.

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=108301954&postId=1081823682&sid=1#0

That's being said, all special shots including arcane shot should be working with this trinket by the next patch.

Personally as a 24/37 survival hunter i am going to stick with steady shot and multishot and not use this trinket. As long as it doesnt increase autoshot damage, i expect more return by using one passive crit-trinket and one burst damage trinket to use with other cooldowns when its needed.

46346의 댓글

As a BM hunter, you should be able to get 3 special shots (steady / multi / arcane) within 6 sec of an arcane shot, which still makes this trinket turn out 120 damage every 6 seconds, or 20 DPS before crit. Factor in 30% crit and you're looking at 28.6 DPS.

Compared to Hourglass of the Unraveller (much easily attained), it's a nice upgrade. You can guestimate that the Hourglass, assuming it procs every 60 sec (based off WWS logs with 30% buffed crit rate), is worth roughly 16 DPS overall (I estimate based off WWS logs that 1 paperdoll DPS translates into 2 actual DPS).

So the Talon is a roughly a 12.5 DPS upgrade, or something like 87 AP by the same estimate, while being more consistant overall.

However, the Talon does have the downside of doing nothing for your pet. No AP damage bonus, no extra focus from GftT, no extra KC procs.

71475의 댓글

i honestly feel that hourglass of the unraveller is better because of the raw crit, and arcane shot is such a mana drain that in the end it will end up draining your mana which causes you to do less dps, unless for some odd reason your a hunter in a shadow priest group

ezzy의 댓글

Is this trinket viable in any situation? Maybe slight burst advantage while farming? :D Just picked this up for minimum dkp in hopes it might be buffed later on.

35640의 댓글

Even if you use Arcane Shot regularly, this trinket is garbage.

The problem of course is that it only effects 2 shots, Steady Shot and Multi Shot. If it effected Auto Shot, it would be the 2nd best trinket behind DST. With it not effecting Auto Shot, it's worse than dungeon blue's.

37347의 댓글

Could you not use this trinket as an opener for Misdirection. With a stop cast macro of Arcane shot, Aimed Shot, Steady Shot. this would be viable for greater aggro. and since you would have a stop cast sequence would you not be able to swap trinkets after the Misdirection cast?

Heimdallen의 댓글

It's tragic but true. With imp arcane shot I have a 5 second CD on arcane shot with a 6 second duration on the damage buff from this trinket, effectively allowing this buff to be up constantly. But as was mentioned above, it does not apply to auto-shot, which takes it from being potentially one of the greatest hunter trinkets in the game to absolute garbage. I did some dps tests with this and compared to my previous trinkets, which are Tsunami Talisman and Berserker's Call, my dps is MUCH higher with those two. A static +40 damage increase would be positively amazing if this worked as it's tooltip indicated, and wasn't secretly gimped. I'd pass on this and save yourself the anguish of playing with it only to find out it sucks.

Dalus의 댓글

While normally this trinket is garbage, our hunter has found a use for it on the Lady Vashj fight. He takes the role of the kiter, and this trinket increases his damage for all his specials--which is all he's able to use while kiting the mob.

94437의 댓글

Hunter item.

Melilithia의 댓글

@#$% THIS TRINKET.

I want the Fist Weapon for mog, and this thing keeps dropping... my hopes are raised, then instantly crushed. Ugh.

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