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varenne의 댓글

Wait for 손쓰는 손 world quest to popup.
This world quest is located in Nazmir on the north-east coast, right behind the huge tuttle in Torga's Rest

20 seconds timers starts the moment you use Extra action button 운명의 손 두루마리
After you cast the extra action button you become 운명의 손 and have 3 spells

You need to kill 40 mobs in the area in 20 secons now.
Use only 2nd spell - it is the main damaging ability

It's Really Getting Out of Hand achievement demo video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jiz_kInYePc

Hint: You have time to prepare and agro more mobs in the area before you use 운명의 손 두루마리. (Probably can do without prepulling mobs, but it will make this achievement easier)
Mount and agro couple of packs in the middle of the area and move to one of the wooden platforms.
Get away from mobs (because you need to cast 운명의 손 두루마리 for 3 secs), but don't loose agro and try to cast it as close to the wooden platforms as you can

tooote의 댓글

It is possible that the timer starts when you press the button rather than when the cast is succesfully finished, I got interrupted twice on the cast (my earth elemental had not gotten aggro on all the adds), then got it off in the 3rd attempt and finished the quest in about 15 seconds, but didn't get the achievement.

Beace의 댓글

Tried today, but had huge issues with the mobs dropping aggro. Didn't even run far away, they simply dropped aggro randomly after a few seconds, whether I was in hand form or regular. Made 37/40 in 20 seconds, would have been very easy to get 40 if I didn't have these issues.

Ah well I'll get it next time wq is up.

withkittens의 댓글

Make a group with a friend to end up on the same server shard. Dismiss the group. While you use the 운명의 손 두루마리 and start to kill your packs, the friend aggroes couple of other packs on mount and moves them closer to you. Two your packs + two friend's ones should be sufficient. I failed my try (solo), but we got the achievement for my friend on our first attempt.

Apolloshot의 댓글

These achievements that require world quests up are absolutely awful. This is the first time I've seen this WQ up since hitting 120 so failing it just ONCE could mean waiting *weeks* for it again.

Absolutely terrible. I shouldn't have to consider level alts just for an extra attempt or two every few weeks.

JFro80의 댓글

Pretty bull that you can wait for the area to be clear for like 15 minutes to avoid competition only to have someone come and kill all the undead you round up out of nowhere as you're transforming. Then you have to wait another 2 weeks for the world quest to even show up.

Elodeon의 댓글

Currently, best way to do this is in the middle of the night when there are fewer other players.

If you tag a mob in any way, and the mob dies to another player, it will count toward your 40 for the quest and you will not be able to get the achievement.

If you're doing this with a pet, best idea is to put it on passive, then use pet to face-pull multiple groups. Do not let the pet damage them as it will tag them.

While you face-pull with the pet, make sure you don't get any of the aggro. Some of the mobs are ranged. Even if 40 mobs are on your pet, if 1-2 ranged ones are on you, you will not be able to use the scroll to complete this. Meanwhile another player will one-shot the mobs you gathered.

TTHH의 댓글

i tried to cheese it by killing 36/40 without the hand and killing the rest with the hand in 1shot, didnt work, dont waste your time

GullaDaPwna의 댓글

The world quest is just quite frankly horribly designed for this achievement, especially on high pop servers. If you start gathering things up even if u didn't touch them, then someone else kills them YOU get kill credit. Meaning the achievement will pretty much instant fail.

Niixten의 댓글

Another day where someone kills what I pull and I fail the achievement...

Valkyl의 댓글

Easily done as a protection paladin. Mount up, agro 3 packs, dismount, bubble, use the item. Kill. Might need to kill 1 more pack after to get to 40 kills.

prickskytt의 댓글

Not sure if I did something wrong but I started a timer at the exact moment my scroll finished casting and I killed all 40 enemies in 17 seconds but I didn't get the achievement.

Meella의 댓글

1. Do it at night when nobody is in the area
2. Your starting point needs to be in the MIDDLE
3. Pull the group farthest from you and the path you're going to take - I used my interrupt
4. Scroll AFTER you pull
5. Immediately start running into your next pack of mobs
6. Spam 2 the entire time, and only 2

You should have the first crowd you pulled, plus the 1 you ran through, another that you walked across in the middle area of there before you END off on a wooden platform. I JUST had enough mobs on my last cast when the timer ran out - got the achievement.

I just completed this achievement moments ago - solo - since Blizzards' hot-fix. Don't F it up - there's no redo until the WQ re-spawns.

Gogeta1990의 댓글

Terrible achievement when you have to share the area with a constant influx of people doing the WQ naturally (yes, even at night) and who will gladly take your 20-30 prepared mobs for themselves.

It's not like you can just reset your WQ progress and try again once you make an attempt and people interfere.
Like someone else here said, the best way is to have a friend round up extra mobs for you, but then what is the point of trying to implement it as a solo achievement...

Sometimes i have to wonder who comes up with this kind of stuff and who approved it.

seera426의 댓글

i did it as a havo dh. just mounted up, aggro couple of mobs, run a bit from the pack + metamorphosis at maximum range, and just used the second spell.

RuiEn의 댓글

Follow this route to get the achievement >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9C4MVqm1BM <<

arekantos의 댓글

You can cheese this achivment by simply gathering the mobs up before you turn into the hand, CC them and then turn into the hand and smash. You will be interupted if you take dmg when you are trying to turn into the hand

dekonstrukt의 댓글

So I do not know if this is a known bug, but it is not mentioned above. Once you transform into the hand, you cannot die. So if you go afk on mobs, the mobs will literally just sit on you and not aggro anyone that walks over them, but keep aggro on you. Experienced this today with someone else doing it and it prevented me from doing a normal loop, as such fail attempt.

Tunney의 댓글

And yet another awful timed achievement that seems impossible at the moment. Pretty frustrating stuff from Blizzard

Faellya의 댓글

who designed these achievements. Every single one in nazmir is awful and frustrating to get.

Kiyoine의 댓글

I tracked the achievement, then decided to manually kill a few of the elites to clear the way before transforming. The tracked achievement turned red (failed) as I was doing so. So the timer begins AS SOON AS you engage a mob in combat, it seems - not as soon as you use the extra action button to transform into the hand.

:| Thanks for the clarity, blizzard.

jason999의 댓글

Easy if you have a monk alt.Respec to Brewmaster and pick up the talent 흑우 조각상 소환
Make sure there is nobody else in the area.
Pck up 3 groups of skeletons from the platforms and drop 흑우 조각상 소환 before dismouting
Summon the hand and its done!

rabiesarebad의 댓글

You can complete this during the regular one-time horde quest 운명의 손 잡아 끌기 which gives you multiple attempts, rather than having to wait for the WQ to pop or using alts. The timer starts when you finish casting the hand (not upon accepting the quest), and you can still track the achievement. Accept the quest, gather up mobs, CC them (taking damage will cancel the ~2 second cast), transform, and use the 2nd ability to aoe them down quickly.

If you need another attempt, abandon the quest and relog (not sure if needed, but the tracking text was still red for me), and re-accept the quest. You only need 40/50 undead, and if you succeed it will pop immediately, not on turn-in.

vladmartin의 댓글

A possible reference to "The Legend of Kyrandia: Hand of Fate" game and its glorious antagonist.

Tamiller의 댓글

For those of you who have watched the videos posted from September 2018 and earlier, and struggled with trying to follow those paths, but the mobs evade before you can kill them.. I have another way of doing this!

Get a friend. (Yes, I know the achieve can't be done in a group.. bear with me.) Group up with them. Come up with a game plan for which packs your friend is going to round up for you, and what spot they will bring the mobs to. Use flags to mark the packs to grab and the killing spot (the flags will disappear when you drop group, just use them while you're setting up to be sure you both understand exactly where you're each going.). The killing spot should be somewhere close enough that the rounded up packs won't evade, and also close to, say, another big platform to use as a second killing spot. Once you have your plan in place, wait for all other players to clear out of the area. Wait for respawns of all the ones you were planning to kill. Drop group, and GO. Your friend should now be rounding up the first set of mobs while mounted. When they are approaching killing spot #1, start transforming into the hand, then smash with button 2. Run to killing spot #2, and smash with button 2. Win.

It's still difficult, and can take a few tries to figure out how to coordinate with your friend. (Which means, waiting for the WQ to come up again.) But my husband and I got it for each other this way.

corroc의 댓글

Ultimate way to cheese this if you have a paladin alt. Collect mobs with consecration, use divine shield and you can cast the hand while being immune to everything. Kill the mobs.

qazgosu의 댓글

For all fellow hunters in the game.

When mounted go pull 3-4 packs, watch out to not lose aggro, then use your turtle and start casting
the quest item (turtle will make you to avoid getting interrupted).

After, just spam the 2nd skill and you earn the achievement.

FAdraven의 댓글

update: the previous version of this script will not work as of shadowlands pre-patch (9.0.1). it has been updated but not tested extensively.

in order to more easily track your progress on this and other bfa achievements that require that specific world quests are available, you can run the following:

/run ids={=52159,=51178,=54512,=53346,=51127,=54498,=53704,=50899}
/run t=0 x=0 for cid,qid in pairs(ids) do _,n,_,c,_,_,_,_,_,_,_,_,m=GetAchievementInfo(cid) C_QuestLog.RemoveWorldQuestWatch(qid) if not (c and m) then a=C_QuestLog.AddWorldQuestWatch(qid) print(n,a) t=t+1 if a then x=x+1 end end end
/run print(x,'of',t,'available')

you can run the lines individually, using Paste / CopyPasta, or with an extended macro using Macro Toolkit.

if you've already completed an achievement on the current character it will be skipped, otherwise the achievement name will be listed along with whether or not the required quest is available:
true = achievement is not completed, and the required quest is available and should be added to the world quest tracker
false = achievement is not completed but not the required quest available

it will also print the number of quests currently available, but if you've already completed all of the achievements nothing will be displayed.

the achievements tracked by this script are:
비 내리는 자유지대
로아의 힘으로!
1타 20피
주렁주렁 트로그
손좀 봐 줄까
화물을 호위하십시오
내일은 영업왕
7군단 첩자 사냥꾼

it should be noted that i've only tested this on alliance, different quest ids may be required for horde.

wowZhenek의 댓글

How to do it as frost mage:

1 - pull mobs from all around, be mindful of the short leash (they reset fast)
2 - iceblock and let them all group up on you
3 - petnova -> blink -> icebarrier -> hand cast
4 - move towards the pack and slam the "2"
5 - profit

user123456의 댓글

Everything about this is just stupid. Blizzard failed horribly and should fix it.

MoarHeroisms의 댓글

Despite its criteria telling you not to be in a group, I got this achievement while in a raid.

I listed myself in group finder and converted to raid to use the markers as a reference for which trash packs I should aggro in a practice run and just completed it on the first go with no quest progress. The calligraphy world quests can also be done this way so you don't have to worry about one-shotting them.

SteveRocks의 댓글

As someone else mentioned, I was able to do this no problem while in a raid group. The kills don't get logged while in a raid so if you make a mistake just run out of the quest area and try again. Just make sure that the other people in your raid are not in the same zone as you (Nazmir) or you won't get the achievement.

schnizol의 댓글

That method with pulling a few groups and trying in raid still works.
Also, be sure you can get away from pulled groups for long enough to cast the Hand scroll as any attack interrupts. As a mage I could nova and 2x shimmer away

Vampyrr의 댓글

Got it first try following that video guide good work!

Canukistani의 댓글

Based on the earlier videos posted and what i see today. there are a lot more of the elite zombies then before. I'm wondering if this achievement is even possible anymore.

Ajfree의 댓글

As a hunter I stood at 63.5, 15 and Misdirected 3 packs to my pet (count 40 before pulling). I used the scroll and 1 shot them all for the achievement. I invited an alt to make a raid group, but I managed this on the first try.

Jovahkiin의 댓글

As of 8.3, creating a group and trying to convert it to raid does not work, it simply won't let you convert the party to raid without anyone in it.

Be warned, do not attempt this achievement if anyone is nearby doing their world quest (pretty much impossible for me on high pop) as they will very likely crash you and begin your timer while you are pulling.

Very frustrating achievement design to say the least.

Oxyia의 댓글

Easily done this on my first attempt with an Havoc DH, but any class with immunities that allow you to cast while immune works (Pala, Rogue, Hunter). Talent into Netherwalk. Pull 3-4 packs at once, click netherwalk so they cannot stop you casting the scroll to become the Hand of Fate. Once the cast is complete, simply spam 2 and you should get your achi instantly. Make sure no people are around when you try this though, as they might steal your packs away.

cutieneta의 댓글

It seems this acheivement is not currently possible. Once I get enough mobs after me to actually complete the achievement, I get disconnected on finishing the cast to transform into the hand. On logging back the quest do not trigger and I cannot complete the quest.

AlexL1118의 댓글

It's totally unclear to me how to gather so many mobs as we read in comments or see in videos. The groups of ~10 mobs in each group stand in distance ~30y from each other, and lose aggro after you run ~35-40y from them, so when we reach the third group, we are ~60y from the first group, and thus the first group is running back. Not speaking about fourth group. And we need 4 groups to get 40 mobs for a single cast, because 2 casts with running between them means achievement failure.

GhostQ의 댓글

It seems the aggro drops quickly for Level 60 characters. I was not able to make a huge pull like in the video guides on a Level 60, but I was able to pull it off with a Level 50.

biggaz13의 댓글

I can confirm that as of today this can still be be done on a level 60 in Shadowlands. Took a few goes. If you don't kill anyone just get out and get back to the starting point. There is a youtube video that shows what to do.
Seemed like a few more bad guys to grab on the WQ today so maybe that varies?. Plus use a ground mount to gather. Your flying mount might just lift off the ground a bit and a few will turn back.

bloodyfamas의 댓글

So how to do this easy at lvl60.
Step 1. get a friend (not in your group) to pull a group of mobs
Step 2 you pull a group of mobs not that far away from your friend
Step 3 when you got a group use a immunity spell so you can use the scroll
Step 4 Kill your group by pressing 2
Step 5 walk to your friend and kill his Group of mobs

You should have enough time to walk to your friends to finish the achievement.
Tips : Your friend should be able to Tank or heal himself/herself so he/she doesnt die by his/her group.
Having a pull ability that doesnt do damage can be of use to pull further Enemies

Crazyjor의 댓글

Something I never see Shaman use is this little tip. Find a place with no enemies, cast Earth elemental, then get on your flying mount. Fly around and the Ele will follow under you and pull everything for you, even better it won't attack, and because of how fast flying is, you can actually pull things in a really big radius without too much leashing!

dlbert2000의 댓글

9.1.5 checking in, this achieve still sucks. People for god knows what reason are still farming BFA world quests and roll through just regularly enough to not allow you to have enough mobs to do this achieve

pure162의 댓글

Got it today, stood at 63, 15, close to four big packs of mobs. Gathered tree of the packs, activated the hand, used ability #2, went to the fourth pack and got the achievement, all in less than four seconds. Good luck!

Iolesnape의 댓글

As it can be a pain this achievement for most, since didn't tried it back in BFA, just did it as druid and hope this helps :
There are 4 packs fair close to each other -don't bother getting aggro the packs on platforms- in the centre between the platforms.

- Go bear form for more hp as even now they can hurt (use barkskin if needed)
- Start by pulling the north pack, go straight to the south one (you gonna have 3 packs together by this point) and the 4th one on your left by the small tent.
- If any of the packs lose aggro to you just go slowly towards it while having the others on you and use growl on one of the mobs -rest will come back to you again.
- As you walking to gather them all in one place, you may use vortex.
- Once you gather them all, use mass entanglement.
- Walk few steps away, cast the scroll.
- Use ability 2 on them -you may use quickly ability 1 to 1-2 mobs next to them to finish off the achievement in case you miss 1-2 for your 40 count.

Good luck!

deiXide의 댓글

Paladin tip since this was up today: gather as many packs as possible that won't leash BEFORE you transform. Divine shield. Transform -> mash the 2 key -> run to the last pack (hopefully) and hit 2 and you should be done. I made several mistakes and still got it.

Skyfel의 댓글

Was able to do solo this on my 60 hunter and here is how:

1. Make sure to set your pets to passive and dismiss them
2. Gather as many mobs as possible and travel slowly so you don't lose aggro
3. Call out your pet
4. Feign Death (this will cause the mobs to aggro your pets)
5. use the scroll and cast two to kill your group and should have enough time to kill extra if you miss some

Hope this was able to help anyone that was struggling with this achievement!

Majdus의 댓글

Just got this achievement today, i was able to solo on my lvl 70 guardian druid.
I gathered 3 packs around 63, 16. Used Vortex, cast the scroll and killed all the mobs with 2nd ability. After that, I went to the platform on the east (64, 18), killed mobs there and got my achievement.

Abysus의 댓글

I followed this guide and got achievement in first try: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9C4MVqm1BM

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