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Tolarian의 댓글

I believe this achievement is asking us to juggle 40 of these: http://www.wowhead.com/?item=34599 , which is very easy to do. Just put the torches on your action bar, target the ground underneath you, and spam the button. Instant achievement!

Reminder: You need to be in Dalaran.

mekanikos의 댓글

Too early to actually make guesses, but those of us who've completed the Higher Learning achievement will have a safe, quiet spot to juggle torches; inside http://www.wowwiki.com/Archmage_Vargoth%27s_Retreat

149397의 댓글

I sure hope so, last years torch daily was practically undoable if you don't have a sub-200ms latency. : /

SJPadbury의 댓글

Wouldn't the global cooldown get in the way of this?

97657의 댓글

Maybe it's the same as last year, where you toss a torch in the air, catch and toss it again. Keep the routine up for 15 seconds, and rinse and repeat it 39 more times?

Sounds like it's going to take som time, if this is the way it's going to work out :O

Knoxpwns의 댓글

that would mean they would want you juggling for a straight 10 minutes. I'm doubtful of that scenario, but I think we wont really know until the time comes.

172500의 댓글

I guess none of you bought these torches last year.

They are targetable where they are thrown, when you "catch" one it creates a new torch in your inventory, and these cause no GCD. This achievement will be simple and only require a minimum of 20 torches (ballpark estimate).

anthem47의 댓글

I logged onto an old alt today and realised she still had a stack of these torches...which is weird, they're supposed to disappear when you log out, but I literally hadn't been on that alt since the last Midsummer. Not sure how it happened but she had a stack with 10 min duration that wouldn't count down and they didn't say 'conjured', so I got the achievement on her and then mailed them to my main =D

...then I made the mistake of trying on my DK, forgetting you have to have done the learn to juggle quest. He dropped them all. QQ

I'm really not sure how they stuck around though?
You can see the achievement on Anjelina and Jackdemenzes (my main) on Proudmoore US.

Zythyx의 댓글

Make sure you are in Dalaran to do it - yea, me and all my mates made that mistake as well ;)

Anachon의 댓글

the torches are not soulbound so u can sell them, just got myself 30g for them^^
i can also confirm the infos above. just stand in dalaran, put the torches on your keys, aim the ground under your feet and keep spamming the button

Xiu7의 댓글

I just did this achievement by myself. I used 10 torches and just put the torches on my bars and hovered my mouse over myself and hit the key and clicked a bunch of times. The torches in my inventory went to 0 a couple times so you could get it a little quicker with more than 10 torches. I also tracked the achievement to make sure the counter went up for it.

286371의 댓글

1. Turn off all addons.
2. Put lowest resolution.
3. Turn all effects off or set to low.

This should work the problem of lagg in Dalaran, at least it worked for me.

144159의 댓글

Don't bother about buying 40 of these, they return to your backpack when you catch them again, so 15-20 should be more than enough!

Stormbound의 댓글

Just did this super easy achievement, here's how I went about it;

Step 1: Buy 10 torches from the vendor,
Step 2: Throw the stack of juggling torches on one of your keybinds,
Step 3: Point your camera downwards and hover your mouse over your character,
Step 4: Spam your keybound torches + left click
Step 5: ?
Step 6:Achievement.

Hope it helps.

rawrawra의 댓글

I wouldn't waste the flowers on 15-20. I did it on my second try with only 10.

TheRazielim의 댓글

One thing I noticed was don't just spam your keybind, because it'll cancel the targetting circle on some of them. I was trying with 9 (didn't wanna drop another 5 Blossoms) and kept coming up at 37-39/40 needed, because I was just spamming the key I bound them to. I slowed down a bit and made sure to do it in the order of:

keybind
mouse-click
keybind
mouse-click
keybind
mouse-click
etc

Worked first shot. Might not matter if you're trying with more, but for less (if you've been passing them off on your alts and some kinda got lost), try slowing it down a bit and it'll be fine.

265012의 댓글

Just confirmed that you can buy the torches on one toon and mail them to a diferent one, so if you are like me and dont care about achievements on more than one, this is the easiest way to get the torches

Dhazy의 댓글

If you don't want to waste any flowers at all, do the beginning quests with your alts to get torches, then mail the torches to your desired character since they're not soulbound. ;)

239749의 댓글

The way to do Torch Juggler is by simply going to any Midsummer vendor and buy 15 torches (if you did the starter quest, you'll only have to buy 10 cause you'll have 5 handed to you).

Head to a nice, uncrowded spot in Dalaran where you won't be having major FPS loss. Bind the torches to your keyboard (in my case, 1 lol), and place the AoE marker right under yourself. Now just spam the hell out of your torches by spamming your key and clicking on the mouse. Don't move the mouse or your character.

Keep in mind that this makes it so that the torches go straight up into the sky and fall back onto you. The magic behind this is that the torches fall right on top of you and fall back into your inventory so you can keep spamming it. Don't worry if your torches go to 0 either, just keep clicking and spamming your torches and it should be a breeze. I got mind done in like 6 seconds lol >_>

91394의 댓글

You need to complete the Torch Catching quest to be able to purchase the the Juggling Torches from the Midsummer Merchant.

65430의 댓글

Learn to Juggle

Complete Torch Tossing and Torch Catching during the Midsummer Fire Festival.

About Juggling

You need 10 Juggling Torches if you want to complete this achievement. They disappear from your bags when you throw them and return when you catch them. A stack of five costs 5 flowers at the vendors in the major cities, though you can only buy them once you've learned to juggle.

To juggle, hotkey your torches, click beneath your feet, and repeat as fast as desired. For this achievement, that would mean as fast as you can.

Former Juggling Issues

Juggling Torches used to disappear like conjured items when you log out or go into arenas, but that has been fixed. They are permanent items.

If you can't get the achievement, make sure you're in Dalaran when you try it and make sure you have enough torches. 5 won't cut it. 10 is best.

255615의 댓글

You need to complete this quest and the follow up before you can buy the torches from the vendor.

95724의 댓글

If you have book The Schools of Arcane Magic - Mastery from the Higher Learning achievement, you can use it to teleport to Archmage Vargoth's Retreat and do your juggling there. I was the only player in the room and I had no lag.

Kar0t의 댓글

Holy downrating, Batman!

I wonder why this achievement requires you to be in Dalaran, where they could just as easily made it so it has to be in any capital city, instead of the low-fps capital of the world of warcraft...qq...

Almaster의 댓글

i can confirm what Nyoron said, it worked well with me.

254283의 댓글

If you're on a laptop it makes the achievement uber easy if you use both a mouse and your laptop-default mousebutton, and spam them both simultaneously.

48128의 댓글

If at the first set of ten torches you catch only receive credit for catching up nine you should change your location

I did fifteen tries where i did only get credit for nine torches the first ten torches i threw, as soon as i changed location the problem was solved

Kraan의 댓글

I made this video so people understand fully what they need to do to get the Achievement. Hope it helps some of you out!

Inexorability의 댓글

Track the achievement (shift-click it) so you can see how you're doing. If the timer runs out while you're juggling, don't stop! The timer resets as soon it runs out. You will catch the torches you've already tossed into the air but they will be added to the new timer's count, effectively giving you a few more seconds of tossing time.

brionl의 댓글

I flew to the little strip of ground outside the walls of Dalaran and did it there. Practically zero lag, just do it like above. I had about 8 or 9 in the air at once, my torches were going between 20 and 11-12 in inventory.

Kazhirran의 댓글

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGMWPHNkv6E - Here is a video I used to get this Achievement done. Explains everything quite well.

387035의 댓글

haha omg, i saw you yesterday and i thought "WTF is that horde doing" now i know, freakin small world lmao, Thanks for the video it helped me a lot, i promise not to gank your alts :-D

-Flubsofdeath
Human Deathknight -Neptulon

davidcollantes의 댓글

If I haven't done the second quest to teach how to juggle (I spent 2 hours trying to catch the four torches), can I still do this quest, or will the torches fall and shatter (even if I have followed the instructions explained herein)? Thank you.

Umega의 댓글

I have done exactly what everyone has done: put juggling items in action bar and spam 1-click etc, the green circle was right on top of me all the time and I was in Dalaran, I used up all of my 40 torches. However I didn't get the achievement, I was not getting the items back and I didn't see the achievement counter for the jugglings go up. What did I do wrong?

Donaran의 댓글

really nice thx !

215071의 댓글

Just point your cursor directly at your feet, put the torches on your action bar and spam the number on your keyboard associated with the torches while simultaniously clicking at your feet with the mouse with the other hand, takes a matter of seconds to get the achievment and you will end up with the exact number of torches you started with....can be done anywhere in Dal.

Wish I'd read this before doing the achievment. I bought 40 torches not realising that I would catch them all again and only needed 10 or so......
Left me 35 flowers short of buying the dancing flame thingy that I wanted :(

They sell for around 50 -100G for a stack of ten on AH on my server, so it's not a total loss. You can also mail them to your alts, saving you having to buy them again.

Stuckle의 댓글

anthem47's comment was most useful to me! Put the torces in slot 1 then target under you and click and pres 1 until you get the achevement! Easy easy easy...Good luck everyone ;P hoped this helped!

Infiniti의 댓글

You can't do it with 5 torches, but you can make it easily with 10.

gnorkthedark의 댓글

i misunderstood this, thought you needed 40 torches. you only need one ^^

Kurion의 댓글

It also looks like that you need to complete the torch tossing and catching quests just to be able to get the juggling acheivement. If you don't the torches will just fall to the ground and be wasted.

273708의 댓글

Flame Keeper Scourgelead is on Coilfang US.

corners의 댓글

This is wrong. You can sit there and spam a bind and clicking the ground at the same time. I didn't lose one and i was tossing 10 at a time.

Also, you can do this with just one torch. You don't even need 5, or 10. Just one is fine. If you have more fine it goes by faster. Just don't spend any of your blossoms on them.

You also have had to have done the toss torching daily first.I think someone also said you might need the torch catching one but i haven't confirmed that.

coolguyry의 댓글

Dumb question... I saw the video and all... but how do I make a macro so I can be able to do this?

Xrystal의 댓글

Don't do what I did and go to the vendor and buy 40 torches. I read (Unique 40) so thought that was the required amount for the achievement. I believe you can do this with 10.

191589의 댓글

As stated in the guide for this event Dalarans lag can really mess you up. I would advise disabling all addons if you are having trouble

Ellixen의 댓글

you can just throw the torches right on top of yourself, that's what i did and got the achievement no problem

Mantrhax의 댓글

lol i Bough 30 torches just to be sure, and went to Archmage Vargoth's Retreat using The Schools of Arcane Magic - Mastery , whem i finished i still have the 30 torches in my backpack... lol

Easy > Torch Juggler

337106의 댓글

LOL at the above poster.

118565의 댓글

I found a G15 macro was the best way for me (with high ping) to do this :)
keypress, 50ms pause, mouseclick and have it on repeat!

Haxan의 댓글

Why try with 10 torches when its much easier if you have 20. Omg, they arent that expensive...

403690의 댓글

Easy. You need to have keyboard key and mouse coordination as well as speed in order to get it done my way..lol
I did this with 10 torches only.
I binded the torches to number 1 and simply spammed that key while pressed the mouse button on the ground simultaneously. I spammed both buttons super fast..15secs later...bam! completed.
Good luck =)

mstrovis의 댓글

NOTE: You have to have the Quest Torch Juggler completed in order to get this achivment not the daily just the first one only needing 4.

368100의 댓글

got 40 in my bag, find a nice place, and 1-> left click -> 1 -> left click, then i got achievement, and 38 in my bag....which means only used 2 of them...

Buttery의 댓글

dunno bout you guys, but binding the torches to two keybinds allowed me to spam the lcick torches and get it easy, that made a huge diff, might help some of you guys get past the latency issue.

370498의 댓글

I bound the torches to mouse wheel down and I just spammed wheel down and left click - couldn't be any easier!

Edit: I scrolled the wheel down with my middle finger and left clicked with my index finger. Laptop users can also spam mouse wheel down on an external mouse and spam left click with your other hand on your laptop's built-in mouse.

peachtree의 댓글

Be sure you have completed Torch Catching first, as you will be unable to catch the torches without completing it.

I've been doing these achievements on various characters and finally decided to do it on my main (I'm weird like that); went to dalaran with 15 torches I'd accumulated from my alts and was quite surprised to see them explode (ever so festively) on the floor at my feet.

48165의 댓글

Tried to complete this several times by alternating left clicks and the assigned keybind, and wasn't even hitting 30 in the time allotted.

Tried simply spamming mouse clicks and keybinds without any attention to properly alternating them, and got it first try. Just FYI for anyone who's trying to do the alternating method - apparently the number that gets canceled accidentally when just spamming weighs against the higher number of clicks you get in that way.

Also, make sure you keep the achievement tracker up if you're having several tries. It doesn't track a moving total over the past 15 seconds, but instead starts a 15 sec timer on the first torch you catch. Meaning if you know you're slow in the first couple of seconds, you're best off waiting for it to reset before trying again.

261705의 댓글

u get 5 torches per 5 blossoms. once u throw the torch and it lands back on u. it will go back into your inventory. dont be like me and buy 40 torches thinking that u will need to catch each one once.

stoise의 댓글

just did it with 2 torches only :o
one more thing for those who failed at doing this achievement:
the name of the area above your minimap has to be 'Dalaran'!
you may be physicaly in Dalaran but if you are in some house or area which has its own name,you wont get the achievement
this reminds me the fishing daily quest Monsterbelly Appetite (needs to be in 'The Great Sea')

Obolon의 댓글

Hello,

I know that it's almost two months before this holiday starts, but since it is the last holiday I have to complete before getting the Violet Proto Drake, I want to do my research in advance, so I don't miss out on it.

Let me explain... I work overseas on a very remote military post and have the absolute worst dialup internet connection known to man. Two cups and a string would give better bandwidth and lower latency than I have. I almost never have latency lower than 2000ms and it's always at least double in Dalaran, so this juggling achievement worries me. I have overcome every other tough holiday achievement that depends on low latency including Frenzied Firecracker and The Rocket's Red Glare for the Lunar Festival (I had to buy thousands of them and keep spamming for hours). I paid off someone with a lot of gold to help me with School of Hard Knocks during Children's Week. All year, this juggling act is the one that has been worrying me the most.

I see people complaining all the time when achievements are difficult or seem out of place, especially School of Hard Knocks, but if I could get through it with 10,000ms latency in Eye of the Storm and a dozen disconnects with a little hired help, then anyone can do it if they put their mind to it. I have no problem with Blizzard developing challenging quests and achievements.

My only problem is that even Blizzard knows that Dalaran has the worst latency problem of anywhere in the game outside of a 25 man raid. So I don't understand why an achievement that seems to require low latency would have been set in Dalaran. At least the fireworks could be done anywhere I wanted. People don't purchase their bandwidth from Blizzard, so can not be counted on to have the bandwidth and latency that Blizzard demands for some things. I mean, I am already resigned to the fact that I am simply not allowed to joust in the game, because you can't charge a target that isn't there anymore by the time your charge registers across the network.

So, basically, I just want to get some information that might help me out when the time comes.

First of all, once you learn to throw and catch the torches is it still possible to drop them or lose them?

I read that the achievement can be done even after the holiday is over if you still have torches. How long after the holiday is this possible? I will probably be throwing torches for days until I eventually, somehow, get a lucky burst of low latency for a few seconds.

With impossibly high latency is it better to have 10 torches and continue to spam the keyboard and mouse or is it better to have 40 and hope that somwhere along the line of lag that all 40 clicks go through at the same time and just spurt through all 40 throws in on go?

Thank you for any advice!

619033의 댓글

JitBit works, i was confused how to work it at first but i managed to figure it out, done it within seconds d=(^.^)z

590502의 댓글

I've been trying to do this the past half-hour nobody is getting the achievement in Dalaran, lol...

619033의 댓글

My arm almost fell off... I'd rather wank my wrist off than do this with just clicking it

Whiskas의 댓글

Took me over 20 attempts but succeeded with 400+ ping in Dalaran. Ended up with a cramp in both my forearms and the stinkin' achievement...
Petition to add 5 seconds to the timer, just so high pingers don't have to go numb doing it!

EDIT: Worth to mention that i had 10 torches, alternated 2 and left-mouse, and did this left of the stairs to south bank.
High ping is due to distance, i play on a Russian server from USA.

smiley001의 댓글

Is it me or did this achievement just became impossible in comparison to last year?

Last year I managed to complete this at a peak hour with roughly 170ms lag on my main - Now I'm repeating the exact same actions for my bankchar during off-hours with 67MS lag, yet I can't seem to make it go higher then 34-36...

Normally I'm very skilled at this kind of stuff, yet this constant failing at ~35 catches is starting to scratch my ego :(

I've tried setting the resolution and details lower, disabled all addons, tested "Use Hardware Cursor" and "Reduce Input Lag" both checked and unchecked... The only remarkable thing I noticed is that all of those different settings had absolutely no impact on the amount of torches caught :\

For moral reasons I'm not quite ready to cheat my way out of it using 3rd party macro'ing software... So theres anyone with an alternative idea?

366963의 댓글

Brother clicking mouse like a mad-man, I was pressing "1" like a mad-man. We were only getting between 33-37. Just as we were about to give up, "schwing" achievement! To all the comments previous saying this is easy ; I really didn't think it was at all!

265896의 댓글

As of 21st June 2010, this achievement has become much harder to get. I'm not entirely sure it's even possible to get it on your own anymore.

I tried for a long time throwing at myself while tracking the achievement, and always landed between 35-38, never the full 40. I eventually managed by grabbing someone in town and having both of us just spam-throw torches at each other for about a minute, and we both eventually got the achievement.

We also tried throwing all torches at one player for a while, but eventually ran out of torches due to being able to carry a maximum of 40, so this didn't work.

If you do it this way, make sure each of you only has 20 torches on you, and if for some reason you end up throwing them all at the same person you wont lose any excess.

Rimmer의 댓글

I tried this for 20 minutes in the place you teleport to using the Higher Learning book. All I got was painful fingers.
Teleported back outside and did it first go.

612538의 댓글

This achiv can be tedious. I found the easiest way to do is hotkey to 1, put camera above ur character and have the achiv on track so you can see the timer. Start slowly the first time then towards the end of the timer spam the torches madly, the ones landing will count over to the next attempt.

Xantrius의 댓글

I don't feel my hands right now.. but got my achievement at last..

sTyLnK의 댓글

Got this at the very last second after mutliple and multiple tries. This is seriously a pain in the ass. Just have to spam away and hope to God you get on that last second. It helps if you turn the tracker on also so you can watch the time tick down and your juggling slowly go up.

.....And for the record I now have no hands. Not even sure how I'm typing this.

cryoflash의 댓글

Always end up with 39/40 or so. -.- I tried to hotkey the torches to multiple keys: 1,2, -, even wheel down like someone here suggested. But no. I'm not even laggy, having disabled my addons and standing in a non-crowded place. Getting desperate and my hands are turning into jelly.

589531의 댓글

This isnt Ez, anymore i believe i remember getting this super ez last year on my dk. it seems harder

Pinkitteh의 댓글

I took 15 torches out of the guild bank from my main doing it last year, and tossed them into the sky (targeting just undermyself offcourse...) *looks up puzzled at the sky* they don't appear to have come back down. :(

I guess you can't use them the next year. :(

Butterworth의 댓글

Your macro didn't work for me, Nana.

I tried this achievement for about 2 hours last night, with various numbers of torches and in various places. I got fed up of ready 'it's easy' comments all over the web so I gave up for the night and tried again today and managed it. This is not an easy achievement guys, if you're having trouble, don't sweat it, take a break and try again later when your latency may be lower or your arms less sore and your mind less stressed! Good luck! <3

114098의 댓글

What i did was juggle my torches at the beer garden,or also known as the 2nd inn.I kept missing out the achievement by 2-3torches.So i decided to alt-z hide all interface and click away. Done in the first try

LoKHor의 댓글

All I can say is: don't spam and click. Get 15 and alternate accurately between hitting the button and clicking. I wasted about 30 mins trying to do it and coming up short each time, then I slowed down and made sure to alternate. BAM, first try.

110266의 댓글

Been trying to get this for two hours now... I did it easily last year, but now it simply seems to be impossible! I have no idea what's changed since then, but something definitely has.

The013의 댓글

Windows users can also use MouseKeys (accessibility functions) and map mouse click to Numpad 5 button.

MrBang의 댓글

This is by far the hardest thing I have ever had to do in this game. I used a brand new mouse. I used my old mouse. I almost went and bought a mouse that would accept macros (as suggested above). I'm not sure if it has become more difficult, or I am just really bad at it. One poster above said they did it in 6 seconds. I can not see how this is possible, but if it is true then I am amazed.

I used some of the tips above to help me. I got 15 torches. I bound them to my 1, 2, 3, and 4 keys. I got my view pointed straight down and my target circle centered on my character. I then turned my mouse SIDEWAYS and TAPED IT DOWN with packaging tape. Then I literally hammered my left mouse button with my index and middle fingers of my right hand while wildly mashing the 1-4 keys with the fingers of my left hand, the whole time watching the on-screen counter (from "tracking" the achievment). I kept getting the "that item is not ready yet" warning but I kept destroying my mouse and keyboard until I got it. About 3 or 4 tries (not including the 20 or so attempts before I taped the mouse down).

It might have been easier if I could have rebound my left click to a key on my keyboard, but unfortunately the left and right clicks are about the only thing you can't rebind (or alternate bind) in the game.

It is really sad that Blizzard made this such a coordination issue (left hand, right hand, click-click-click). I know several senior citizens who play WoW, and some handicapped players. They will never be able to get this achievement (and subsequently their Long, Strange Trip mount) without finding someone to physically do it for them. Boo.

*EDIT* I never thought of using Windows built-in functions to rebind the mouse buttons (see last post above mine). I have all those completely disabled by default since Windows has an annoying habit of trying to tell me to use them when I don't want to use them.

xanderhunter의 댓글

One thing I learned from some other game, if you turn on MouseKeys (Alt+Shift+NumLock for Windows XP) and put your torches binded to 5, you can spam 5 on your NumPad and on the regular spot to do this easier.

619418의 댓글

Here's something that might help you guys with this achievement...

1. Go to the floating island thing east of Dalaran with 15-20 torches (10 is too little)
2. Stay on your flying mount, go about 50 yd from the ground.
3. Press your Juggling Torch keybind and leave the targeting circle on.
4. Slowly descend until the targeting circle turns green.
5. Dismount and spam away; the torches are slower than your falling speed so you'll catch them before they hit the ground...
6. You'll take about 10-11k fall damage so heal up before you try this.

Good luck! :)

And as an extra note to classes with a slowfall ability; you will lose torches if you throw torches more than 20yd high they will hit the ground before you. It's a lot easier to just not use any slow falling ability and just take the 10-11k damage

248959의 댓글

The reason all the people last year are saying it was easy, because it was back then, cos it used to be within 20 seconds.

Now it's been reduced to 15 seconds... which is utterly stupid, as it makes this achievement a button spamming, luck based, latency based, pain in the finger...

Trelani10의 댓글

I just got this achievement due to a tremendous amount of luck. I had 20 torches went to dalaran just by the inn in the middle of the city and spammed away. I had no luck for a while then bam it worked. I had less than a second on the timer. GL on this one.

619430의 댓글

Yes, this achievement is horrible! Not to mention, speeding up the onset of Carpel Tunnel. That said, I went to the Purple Parlor in Dalaran, out on the balcony overlooking the city and somehow managed to complete this as the 40th torch was caught as the 15sec mark ticked and just before breaking my wrist. Latency was surprisingly low.

375446의 댓글

Having a hard time i have no lag what so ever i can only get up to 37 i even put em on 2 keybinds no luck all i get is "item is not ready yet" am i going to fast?

WallyWest의 댓글

There's a difference between lag and latency. Latency is what you see on the screen listed in ms. That's similar to ping times. It's a measure of how fast your computer and the server are talking to each other. Lag is when the server itself slows down for whatever reason. You can't do anything about that and it has nothing to do with your internet connection.

If you're experiencing any noticeable lag this achievement is impossible. You'll see it in things like looting mobs you just killed, opening your mail, etc... If you're seeing that then just give up and try again later. Otherwise move as far away as you can from other players. The grassy corners of the city are good.

I found that trying to stay slow enough to eliminate the "item not ready" message didn't work. There's no skill involved here, just hammer the keys. Alternate between the bound key and your mouse button, but do it as fast as you possibly can and ignore the item not ready message. If it fails don't stop and wait to start over just keep going. You'll get it eventually.

This is a stupid achievement.

375446의 댓글

I'm still at it,, been a few hours now and this is all I need for mount. I have 2 weeks to get it done this is just plain ridiculous any more suggestions ?

Xenomech의 댓글

Has anyone thought to try having multiple players throw torches at one person? The counter for the achievement (which I managed to get solo after a lot of work) appears to increment when you catch the torch. Since you can catch torches thrown by others, maybe this achievement becomes absurdly easy with at least one other player helping?

518086의 댓글

Ok guys..

I just completed this achievement on my second attempt. Its really not that hard.

1.Track the achievement.
2.Assign the torches to the first key in your action bar (like this). http://yfrog.com/eanewpkj
3.Now position your camera directly above you.
4.Press 1 and make sure your character is stood in the centre of the green circle.
5. Click your mouse to start the juggle and spam both your 1 button and your mouse together while keeping an eye on your progress while the achievement is tracked.

Hopefully if you spammed your heart out the achievement should pop and you will be that much closer to completing
The Flame Keeper Achievement.

Good luck guys, I hope this helps.

576252의 댓글

For anybody having problems with this, look at socrates's comment about the macro program. worked perfectly & doesn't require hurting yourself. quick and easy.

Ashgiver의 댓글

OK, so I failed a billion times on this but finally got it.

The way I did it was I:

1) Turned off all my Addons
2) Set the resolution and everything in that category to the absolute minimum.
3) Set the torches on both 1 and 2 on my skill bar.
4) Found a nice corner in Dalaran where no one was and aimed my scren down at my character.
5) started of slowly to warm up
6) When I got used to the pattern of alternating between 1 and 2 together then click 1and 2 together click, I started to speed up.
7) While going at a fast pace but still calm in my chair, I would get about 36/40 at the most.
8) Then I pushed it to the limit mashing of my clicking abilities getting 38/40 about 5 times in a row.
9) Pushing and pushing the pace I finally got it just barely making the time limit.

I hope this helped.

pauladin의 댓글

Drag the torches to 1 on your action bar.

Then edit your key bindings in the file:

WTF\Account\\\bindings-cache.wtf

And add the entry

bind 2 CAMERAORSELECTORMOVE

Then login and carefully mash 1 2 1 2 1...

It took me three cycles, of the 15 second timer, but it got it.

And you can't randomly mash; you have to do it 1,2,1,2,1,2...

ultimakage의 댓글

Is there some secret to this I am just not getting? Spam clicks and buttons to throw at your feet right? Well I still only get to 34 torches in 15 seconds.

79144의 댓글

My personal solution to this one, plugged in an extra keyboard and mouse, and got the help of a friend to double the spammage. Got it first time doing this.

407818의 댓글

If you need Juggling Torches you can do the quest on your alts and send them to your main if you don't want to waste Blossoms.

619578의 댓글

I tried everything for this. Spamming, macro, everything. Always got to 32-36 range. Try putting on "Reduce Input Lag" in video settings. Worked wonders for me. I got it on my first try after that. Good luck, and try not to put yourself in a cast with this one!

Reika의 댓글

No need to add binds in your cache or such. Just make a simple macro.

/script SetBinding("2","CAMERAORSELECTORMOVE")

Set "2" to whatever key you like. Torch on "1", macro on "2" works well. Drag onto the appropriate (IE, match the number with bar location) spot on your bar.

Then get to spamming. This worked for me with 400ms latency.

42666의 댓글

For any G15 keyboard users out there. I just did this achievement by using this simple macro I made.
-http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/1122/g15ahciev.jpg *Note "Q" was the key I put the torches on. Also you must make the repeat setting to "Toggle".
When you get the achievement, to make it stop quickly just press mode 2.

I was also in the area that this item brings you to for less latency http://www.wowhead.com/item=43824.
It took a few tries but it worked. Also in the macro anything less than .010 sec will make you disconnect.

Hope this helps.

619591의 댓글

WORKING METHOD

Me and a guildmate tried this for about an hour without any luck getting above 35.

Then we tried the one with the max range. First you throw torches on your mate and then on yourself so that they hit both you and your mate exactly the same time. But we didnt get that to work.

Then we tried out a finally working method.

Stand about 5 yards from each other. First you throw about 7-8 torches on yourself quickly and as soon as they hit you you start throwing them on your mate(which goes a lot quicker). I had 1 second left on my timer doing it like this and failing a million times on just spamming myself and hitting somewhere between 32-35 each try.

Good luck!

274984의 댓글

Took me a while too, but I finally got it.
For those of you having trouble with the lag in dalaran, try and head to the very outskirts of town. Hop on your flying mount and land on the edge of the dalaran "island", just on the other side of the main wall surrounding the city. That's where I got the achievement on my first try.
Make sure you're tracking the achievement too, since it has a timer and you know exactly how many torches you've juggled and how much time you have left.
I literally got the achievement with about 0.5 sec left on the clock.
Good luck guys.

412367의 댓글

Just a head up, I guess you can't do this achievement if you haven't done the juggling quests in the city. I had a stack of 40 left over from last year and tried to do it on a alt who hadn't done any of the quests and the torches just blow up on the ground. =(

mfrboga의 댓글

From what I saw from my attempt of doing this achievement, it looks like the torches has an internal cooldown or something. When I did the rotation given, there were some torches that wasn't even casted at all in between the ones that were thrown. It would help to say that I didn't get any lag or latency issues as well.

sirrus86의 댓글

I've read through all these posts, talked to some guildies and others on my server, and have determined that I've apparently got a very unique problem. At the time of writing this, I've devoted probably 4 hours straight to getting this achievement, using every method on this page, and have averaged about 25/40, my highest being 32/40.

First I'll start by stating what I HAVE done. I've created a macro that spams "/use Juggling Torch" and assigned it to two hotkeys (I started with one, but found more success with two). I've used the "/script SetBinding" trick so that I can push a nearby button rather than destroy my mouse. I've tried flying at the outskirts, then falling from the highest point possible while spamming the macros. I've tried the macros alone in both quiet AND busy areas (neither was much better than the other). In frustration, I went as far as to turn off all my addons, delete my WTF folder, turn all my video settings to the lowest setting, turn on "Reduce Input Lag", lower my resolution to the smallest setting, and even terminate as many of the other processes on my computer as I could followed by setting WoW's thread priority higher (and yes I restarted my computer a few times). Furthermore I disconnected my wireless router and directly connected my computer to my cable modem, followed by doing a tracert and ping to see if there were any latency problems whatsoever. During all of these changes, my framerate fluctuated accordingly between 30 and 90 fps, while my latency stayed around 100ms (the router had zero impact).

Now that that's out of the way, here's my technique. I have 30 torches. I've tried two methods, neither of which should theoretically be more efficient than the other. First I've figured out that if you stand on the boxes by the fisherman outside Violet Hold and aim the torches on the ground besides the boxes (yet close enough that you'd catch them) the torches will stay in the air for more than six seconds before you catch them. While this gives me a great head start, near the end I can't catch the torches fast enough. Second I've found that if you auto-run into a corner and aim the torches at one of the walls to the side, you'll basically throw and catch them almost instantaneously. No head start, but you catch them quickly. Either way I end up with around 25 when I'm done.

Here's why: if I throw between 5 or 6 torches in a short period of time, whether I've caught them or not, my character will not throw any more for about five full seconds.

Let me break it down... I throw torches 1, 2, and 3. I catch torch 1 and throw 4. I catch torch 2 and throw 5. I catch torch 3 and throw 6. Suddenly I'm spammed with "that item isn't ready yet" until after torches 4, 5, and 6 are caught. Only AFTER torch 6 is caught can I throw torch 7 and so on. With the quick method I can get to about torch 8 or 9 before this happens, but the pause will end up being longer.

The only two ideas I have are this: either there's a limit to how many torches you can throw at a time, and the game will make restrictions to enforce this limit, or my user interface is either refusing to cooperate or somehow overloading with input and crashing itself for a moment.

Finally, yes I've tested doing this slowly and in a controlled fashion. The error never kicked in, but being that I did it slowly I only wound up with like 20. Trying it a little faster, yet still controlled, the error kicked in as it has every other time, thus proving that with things as they are now I literally can't throw them fast enough without the interface stopping me.

So that's my problem. Suggestions?

262076의 댓글

Okay I don't know about anyone this year, but I can't seem to get this to work this year on a new 80. I did it on two separate characters last year without fail but this year the timer almost looks like it's busted or something. wtf is going on?

admielke의 댓글

I think there might be a bug.
People keep telling me that the torches that are already up in the air count even if the timer hits 0.
Mine doesn't!
I get to 0 seconds with 34 or so and with 6 up in the air and the timer resets.

neogia의 댓글

METHOD THAT WORKS WITHOUT CHEATING

So after about 30 mins, I figured out it's not how fast you click the targeting circle, it's how fast you can bring that circle up. I placed the stack of 15 torches in the first action bar slot and bound Mouse wheel up AND Mouse wheel down to that button.

Put both hands on the mouse: Right hand index finger scrolling the scroll wheel UP and DOWN, and the left hand index finger mashing the Left Click button. Worked first try.

Hope it helps.

Ancients의 댓글

I was not able to do it with mouse clicks even at the tower all the way up in the air in dalaran. (135ms and 165fps)

I turn on the build-in windows keyboard mouse click macro with Alt-Shift-NumLock and bind my mouse left click to the number 5 on the keypad.

/cast Juggling Torch on my hotkey 1

spamming only my keyboard: 1 key + numlock 5 key

I got the achievement + my purple mount

274253의 댓글

Hello Everyone,

Here is my way for this achievement. Despite having ok-ish PC and quite stable connection (100 ms) I couldn't do this achievement. Despite of amazing spamming and even using the software to auto click every 10 ms I couldn't do it.

Then I realised that when I was steady clicking I did way better than with spamming. So my advise is:
1) Buy 10 torches
2) Move torches to your action bar with binded key
3) Start pressing the key + clicking. Don't Spam it! Start quite slowly and check how good you are doing - check how many torches reside in your inv while you are juggling. Speed up a little and check your progress. You should be going down to 1 - 2 torches in your inv during those 15 sec to get this achievement.

Good Luck with that. It took me 1.5 hours today and a lot of frustration to do it (after those 1.5 hours I tried the procedure I've described above and worked like a charm with normal settings, addons and in tavern). Just remember - dont spam! I've noticed that the more you spam the worse it gets ... smooth coordination of pressing bound key and clicking worked like a charm.

173187의 댓글

After averaging around 32 torches, i was about to give up. I tried all the advice given on here. What finally worked was using the /script SetBinding("2","CAMERAORSELECTORMOVE") method by setting the torch to my first and second button. Angle the screen to look downward and target yourself with the cursor on yourself. I could not do this during the day but i managed to easily do it around 4am server time with all my addons disabled and my settings as low as possible. I ran out of torches and had to wait a second to catch them again. My advice is, wait till night time to attempt this.

590937의 댓글

Probably repetitive at this point, but basically, if you're on a crowded server, it seems you HAVE to be a night owl to complete this quest. I tried at around 3:00 AM (server time) today and got it on the first try--after having tried about 50 times last night, at various times from 7:30 PM to 12:00 AM.

As I was hitting the buttons (I used the macro mentioned earlier , replacing 2 with = and continuing to use both hands), I was mainly keeping track of the number of torches in my inventory. Funnily enough, I never really used much more torches than when I failed previous times, so I wasn't hitting the buttons any faster. The only difference? Thanks to that little bit of a lesser strain on the server, the torches moved that much faster.

I never WoW in the daytime, so maybe the servers have quieter hours in the day, but considering this is the summertime and no one's in school... yeah.

ArtelQuessir의 댓글

Beans said:

I had a copy of the book The Schools of Arcane Magic - Mastery http://www.wowhead.com/?item=43824 that I received when I completed the Higher Learning achievement. (You know the achievement where you run all over Dalaran and look for those darn books to spawn, just so you can get the Kirin Tor Familiar non-combat pet. http://www.wowhead.com/?item=44738) After using it to teleport to Archmage Vargoth's Retreat (which is located atop the spires of the Violet Citadel in Dalaran) I was able to easily get the achievement as there was zero lag for me in that room.

Best advice ever!

If you don't have the book yet, or have disposed of it, there is a portal in the Violet Citadel(it's on the right side, opposite the Caverns of Time portal). I was having the roughest time of it for some reason(likely because my net connection is wireless. However, I got up in there and got it after three tries without stopping.

I found it helps to get a rhythm going and to just keep going after the timer expires, as you end up with several torches still in the air as the timer ticks over and starts anew.

By doing this, I got a big head start on the timer, and finished with three seconds left.

619495의 댓글

to clarify the posts above, i posted this in the Juggling Torch comment page:

As for all the people having troubles doing this, only reaching up to 35-39 torches (a lot of people on my server have this issue, as do a lot of people on wow forums...)

Just found a working way for myself (after trying for at least one hour by simply spamming keybind + clicking)

I put down all my graphic settings to minimum (i got a monster machine, but hey, it still helps a bit, i suppose...), turned off all my addons and stood on the lower floor part of dalaran (outside the actual city) outside of violet hold.

Then i did this:

/script SetBinding("2", "CAMERAORSELECTORMOVE")
/script SetBinding("3", "CAMERAORSELECTORMOVE")

This will temporarilly bind a key (I picked 2 and 3 but you can use anything) to your mouse click until you log out.)
(note that afterwards you do have to rebind whatever is on these buttons)
I then made a macro:

/cast Juggling Torch
/cast Juggling Torch
/cast Juggling Torch
/cast Juggling Torch
/cast Juggling Torch
/cast Juggling Torch

and bound this to 7 on my keyboard (once again, can be anything, this was most comfortable for me)

I began spamming 2+3 (with my middle+index finger from my right hand) and spammed 7 with the indexfinger of my right hand.

After roughly 2 complete cycles (to start up the counter properly) i got it.

Kobzol의 댓글

If you are having trouble doing this, just enable Reduce Input lag in Video settings

Serinia의 댓글

I tried changing my video settings, using a macro, finding a secluded place in dal, using reduce lag option, disabling all my add ons, using another computer, using another internet source. If your on a high pop server your pretty much screwed. I had a 175 latency with like 60 fps and nothing I did would let me win on this quest. I petitioned a GM, and got a reply your ticket will be serviced soon for over 4 hours. I believe this quest has issues and some have just gotten lucky, either they are on lower pop servers, or can deal with getting up at 3-5am in order to do this quest. I woke up at 6am and the servers were already offline. This is the LAST quest for my mount, I have been working hard every festival to get everything done to find out the very last quest is holding me up go figure. Thanks blizz.

619831의 댓글

Okay so i spent the whole day trying to juggle these darn torches. Anyways i gave up and finished my extinguishing and honouring the flames of azeroth. Hearthed back to dalaran. had some of the Fiery Festival Brew. And tried again. Instantly i got it. Wasnt even spamming that crazy like i was all day.....so getting drunk=better torch juggling :D

- Flame Kepper Faeye

309284의 댓글

For those having trouble with the achievement (it's much harder this year due to being 15 seconds instead of 20):

1. Fly to the strip of land outside of Dalaran (it's right next to Krasus Landing).
2. Fly as high as possible but not at a height where you will fall to death.
3. Point your camera straight down, and have your cursor right where you will land.
4. Unmount, and while in air, spam the juggling torches. When you hit land, keep juggling.

The counter starts when you catch your first torch as opposed to when you throw it. By doing this, you will have 3-4 extra torches in the air at the start compared to doing it normally.

619890의 댓글

I used this method and got the achievement with no problem. Using the method of hotkeying the torches and looking at my feet, I used 2 hotkeys instead of 1. I didn't think this would work at first, but got it accomplished on the first go with 3 seconds to spare.

Bhaalgorn의 댓글

If you don't have the book and everywhere is laggy/crowded,a nice lag-free area is to the left of krasus landing. And don't worry about the no fly zone,once you've completed your achievement just approach the landing site and you'll be able to mount up.

Amdoravel의 댓글

the best way i found to complete this achievement was to make a script and macro...

type /script SetBinding("3", "CAMERAORSELECTORMOVE")
make sure u place ure mouse cursor under ure character
then make 2 macros with
/cast Juggling Torch
/cast Juggling Torch
/cast Juggling Torch
/cast Juggling Torch
/cast Juggling Torch
/cast Juggling Torch

place the macros as ure 4 and 5 keys.... then all u have to do is use ure right hand and spam 543 543 543 543 543 really easy and not so tiring

if u r left handed the opposite would work setting the macro to 1 and 2 keys and typing 123 123 123 123

Scotia의 댓글

Super annoying, but able to be done without macros... if you're willing to have a bit of a sore wrist for a few moments. Bought 10 torches, hotkeyed the torch, and smacked the hotkey with one finger while rapid fire tapping the mouse button with a finger on my other hand. Don't hold the mouse. Hover your hand over it. Poster above who said what's important is not how many torches you can launch, but how quickly you can bring up the green targeting circle is correct. I spent more focus on rapidly tapping the mouse button than I did the hotkey, and I made it just under the wire.

Did this in the Dalaran underground near Cantrips and Crows.

433576의 댓글

To me this quest is about lag. I did the keybinding and the mouse click spam but never got above 36. Someone said to fly to one of the outlying floating islands and try it there to reduce the lag the city creates.
Did nothing different than fly to the island floating by the landing area and finished the quest on the first try.

608503의 댓글

You don't really need to mess around with script changes and macros and all that stuff. Keybind the torches and alternate using and throwing. You'll need to get a rhythm going and don't stop if you don't hit the achievement the first time. In fact, keeping them in the air when it reset should help.

So, this is what I did.

Track the achievement so you can gauge your speed.
One finger on keybind, one on mouse (duh)
Start slow, use keybind (1), then click with mouse (2)
Start speeding up, but have a short delay after you click the mouse before using keybind again
So instead of going 1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2, it's more like 1,2 - 1,2 - 1,2 - 1,2 - 1,2
Keep decreasing the pauses, and eventually you'll get it.

Mephidross의 댓글

I have a G15 programmable keyboard and just finished this with about 4 seconds to spare, put the torches in my 2 key and the macro /script SetBinding("1","CAMERAORSELECTORMOVE") in my 1 key (not sure if that's how it's suppose to work but w/e it worked for me). Then I created the macro 12121212(rep about 10 times) for my G1 and spammed that... Was glorious after spending so long frustrating over mouse clicks and pressing 1. Completely worth skipping my dental appointment to figure out.

alllucky7s의 댓글

I highly recommend using the Juggler addon, I did this first try at the mage shop in Dalaran (were you can buy Dalaran Brilliance or whatever it's called, etc.), which is a very small place with 0 people so FPS isn't a problem. If lag is a problem, try doing it when everyone's out raiding or at Wintergrasp; and if you've done the Higher Learning achievement try using the teleport book.

Guidelines: grab 5 torches at the vendor, so you have a total of 10 torches (you can buy 1 stack of 5 with 5 burning blossoms +5 from the juggling quest). Install the addon, go to Dalaran and type /juggler in chat. Set your cursor in the ground below your character and spam the mousewheel up or down until you get the achievement.

Serinia의 댓글

This was the LAST achieve for my flying 310 mount, so I wanted to do whatever it took to get it done. This is pretty much over kill but you will get it no matter what.

Finally got this one...

This is what I did.

Set my alarm clock for 4am, woke up logged into wow, so much less dal lag at that time. again probably over kill but I wanted my achieve.

Disabled all addons,
I actually bought all 40 torches but I dont think its needed with this function
set graphics to lower settings,
enabled reduce lag option,
Flew to an island outside dalaran but still consider dal territory
Then setup keybinds 1,2 1 = torch 2 = clickof the mouse using previously recommended change to wtf file
Mount your fly mount fly up to the highest point where the aoe circle on the ground goes from red to green, then go back down a hair so its green.
START SPAMMING
you will fall off your mount but the way this works the torches will be way up in the air enabling more than usual to be sky high.

Keep SPAMMING
I had well over 40 torches before the timer expired and there were torches continually falling well after the timer went to 0 so if to do it this way, and dont get it the first time the 2nd time a bunch will proc right as the timer restarts.

Good luck all.

Random33698의 댓글

http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info16959-Juggler.html

It may sound stupid, but my hands don't work fast enough to click (I have arthritis) and this addon just has you use the scrollwheel to do the achievement. I was able to do it myself in no time.

This can be done - just finding the right combination of location in dalaran and either clicking or using the addon will help.

Gwenna의 댓글

Amen to this http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info16959-Juggler.html
Worked like a charm. Quick and easy! :)

520584의 댓글

Confirmed "mage shop in Dalaran (were you can buy Dalaran Brilliance or whatever it's called, etc.)" just sit and spam like crazy, if you need to watch your countdown, use the watch achievement. Works perfect. =)
Helps to have on your action bar

270739의 댓글

You can send these in the mail, so you don't have to buy a new set of em for your alts (as long as you don't drop too many since they disappear

545280의 댓글

You can trade the torches to friends, if they lack Burning Blossoms. =]

161863의 댓글

Note:

Unholy Presence (Death Knights only) reduces global cooldown of the torches by 0.5 seconds, so you can spam this with greater ease. I just got it about 5 minutes ago, fairly easy.

620775의 댓글

I was able to complete last night around midnight. This is what worked for me (server response seems to be the biggest factor):

Minimum 10 torches, 15 probably better
Drop video settings to low
Enable "Reduce input lag" on Resolution tab
Fly to one of the islands outside Dal
Bind torch to hotkey (used 1 for convenience)
Run command to bind mouse click to key (again, 0 felt comfortable). Enter this into chat line, like an emote (binding lasts until logout):
/script SetBinding("0","CAMERAORSELECTORMOVE")
Point view to look directly down on yourself
Make sure cursor is centered on you, so you'll catch the thrown torch (do a test one if necessary)
Start spamming bound keys - both torch & target - I didn't try to coordinate, just mashed them as fast as I could
Keep going until you get it or your arms fall off

I tried the same thing the first night, and could only get up to 38. Tried the flying/falling option and tossing it to another person at both min & max distances - nothing worked. Got it on the second round last night with this method. /shrug Good luck all

110266의 댓글

I believe this achievement has been hotfixed back to 20 seconds again (at least on EU realms). I did it with 4 seconds to spare without using any trick or addon - which doesn't seem possible if the timer was still on 15 seconds.

EDIT: After further examining it seems that the timer is still set to 15 seconds, but the timer now starts when you CATCH the first throw instead of when you THROW it.

shmeek의 댓글

It worked for me the old fashioned way...

1) put the torches on my action bar on the 1 key.
2) clicked 1, then left mouse button while green targeting circle was under my character.
3) repeated this process slowly speeding up - got it on about the 10th try, at 8pm server time, with lag.

It's a &*!@#, but the trick is to have about 10 torches in the air when the thing starts counting. so you gotta keep mashing the buttons until the rhythm clicks

535065의 댓글

Listen, normally I would never go for something like this, but....GET THE JUGGLER ADD-ON. Trust me.

258606의 댓글

To complete Stormbound, add the following between steps two and three:

- Teleport to Purple Parlor (portal found in Violet Citadel across the Caverns of Time portal).

headhurt의 댓글

I just completed this with the use of macros and some serious keyboard spamming. My fingers are achey, but I now have the title. Thanks for all the pointers.

shayneg123의 댓글

Best way for me after having multiple failed attempts, is to be on a lap top and turn on the touch pad and use the buttons down there as you can just mash them wkd fast without moving ur mouse, got it on 2nd try after using the first one to get torches in the air b4 i started.

also, with 20 torches i always had a about 11 torches in my bags while using them so 10 should be fine.

305821의 댓글

I found going to the purple parlor and doing it on the balcony the best spot,
with the least lag. Second tip make sure you click track on the achmnt so
you can see the timer and how close your getting..Third after you hotkey the torches spam your
hotkey and click as fast as u can. If your getting close keep going went the timer runs out
the ones in the air may count on the timer reset. I did it in 3 attemps in a row non stop.
I still think this is the lamest achvmnt in the game. Good Luck.

567177의 댓글

An extra little trick that helps:

Use a laptop with touchpad instead of a mouse. That way you can position your cursor, and then spam ahead without moving the mouse by accident.

XylanTrueheart의 댓글

I am having a weird problem. I have been trying to do this achievement on my Death Knight. I would hot key the throw and be exactly under the mouse circle but I am missing every torch and they land exploding. I was able to do this successfully on all my other alts but my DK can't do it. Anyone have any ideas why he can't?

621842의 댓글

after spending about 2 hours on this, I finally got it using my brother to spam the torch key and me spamming left mouse click. took a few tries, but on like the 4th try we got it.

Gerdofal의 댓글

Another bit of advice. Don't try this during times with high pings, makes it a lot harder. Try for an overnight or early morning time on a weekday.

622035의 댓글

wtf? I hot-keyed the torches and held my cursor under my character. I lost all the torches cause they fell right in front of my character. Do I need to complete the torch juggling quest first? Cause I can't even go to the vendor and purchase torches.

616080의 댓글

I did this down in the sewers (I get 10 more fps down there) with the Juggler addon, and it worked great. I couldn't quite make it happen with ten torches for some reason, so I bought five more and did fine with fifteen.

MintySinty의 댓글

After trying many times to do this achievement using all the aforementioned methods... Traditional style with settings at lowest possible, away from as much lag as possible (up on top of the ring above the Violet Citadel), even with Juggler, I still failed to get the achievement. I had 25 torches with me and I wasn't exactly running out...
Lo and behold I thought "Wait... didn't my new Magic Mouse get put on the shelf because the scroll sensing is absolutely ridiculous?" Well, I opened up the Magic Mouse, connected it, activated Juggler, then placed the mouse sideways on my keyboard tray... Worked like a charm. Got it the first try after that.
Though I couldn't help but think, what with the sideways hand motions stroking the Magic Mouse's smooth surface, that men must be far better at this stuff than I'll ever be. ;)

Cagesan의 댓글

Disable your add-ons (except for Juggler)!

623753의 댓글

I tried this three times in a row using an alternating pattern between my keybind and my mouse, but what worked best for me in the end was just mashing both like crazy. Doing this, I got it on the first try. To each his own, I guess, but I thought it was worth mentioning. Also, for the love of god, DON'T buy 40 torches! I stupidly assumed I would need that many. Wtf am I going to do with all these now?

623921의 댓글

Just buy 15 if you want to earn if yourself. Forget that 10 crap they tell you.

SongCry의 댓글

This was my last achievement needed for the title, and I only had 3 blossoms left and it was the last day of the event. If you have done every single quest/fire in the game and there is no other way, it is quite simple actually. Go on an alt and do the daily quests you can easily get up to 25 blossoms, and you can buy the torches and mail it to your main. Worked for me and I got the title, good luck to ya.

dalalphabet의 댓글

Just did this a few days ago (9/14/10) on one of my alts without any problem. However, went to do it today with the exact same torches (since they're transferable) and they all disappeared - my character didn't catch any, despite clicking on herself. Just wanted to give a heads up that they may have been changed in some way, whether it's that they don't work after the holiday anymore or who knows what.

kykuky의 댓글

Note that now the portals have been removed, there is almost no one in dalaran. So it will probably be easier now to juggle.

kykuky의 댓글

Really easy to do ( also it doesn't have to be midsummer to get the achievement ) all you do is put the juggling torches on your main action bar ( like the 1 slot ) keep pressing 1 and click under your character and you will have the achievement fast.

Omgomgesiuol의 댓글

The torches have a small GCD now, about 0.5 seconds.

And while it sounds like nothing, the achievments is a hell of a lot harder because of it, I'm just saying.
EDIT: Looks like I'm either incredibly pro all of a sudden or they've fixed this overnight- Looks like it's possible to do again now.

IdTheDemon의 댓글

I sort of struggled with this. Then my friend told me about the Juggler add on. It just uses the mousescroll wheel to automatically toss them. Got the achievement easily with it.

http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info16959-Juggler.html

edit: Obviously you want to download the 4.1 version and not the 3.5

Lolus의 댓글

Thanks for the addon, it's basically impossible this year with the CD as you need 20+ seconds

eluneaurora의 댓글

Given the trouble I had with the daily quest, I went ahead and bought 40. I got this within the first try spamming my keys furiously. I used the tips above about the keybind and spam clicking and it was the least painful achievement I've done. Bonus tip: Even on Laptop card Wireless, I get around 187/190 FPS in the Purple Parlor in Dalaran. Perfect conditions.

561234의 댓글

Back when this achieve came out it was unforgiving due to the lag in dalaran, but now that nobody goes there except lvls 70-80 it should be easier.

I think it would be better if it was updated to "Juggle 40 torches in 15 seconds in the Trade District/Valley of Strength.

Even then it would never be as bad.

helmates의 댓글

I find it sad that the only way to get this achi is to (IMHO) cheat with the addon. I tried it for ages without the addon and my best was 30-36 / 40 with loads of "It's not ready yet" spam.

I very much dislike achievements and quests that require the reflexes of 14-year-old Nintendo junkies or air force fighter pilots. Blizzard loses my respect when they design such things in this way.

760423의 댓글

This was surprisingly easy. Go sit on one of the spires of the Violet Citadel in Dalaran (or wherever really, I guess). Have about 10 torches (I bought 35... =/ ) and bind torches to a key (or just drop it on your action bar). Select a torch and put the green circle area right under you by clicking with your mouse. The idea is to alternate your torch bound key with the mouse click as fast as you can. Keep the green circle in the same spot. Try to find a rhythm--it'll probably take a few tries. And remember to track the achieve so you can see your timer and torch number.

837755의 댓글

I done this by myself using only 15 torches...I just put the item on my action bar and clicked under my toon...took me 3 tries to get it. just ALOT of spamming I did it at the flight master when I first arrived so doesnt matter where you do it.

542893의 댓글

If anyone is having problems as of 4.1 the add-on juggler still works

843935의 댓글

If you're having trouble with this, it may be because you're using a wireless keyboard. I was and I couldn't get more than 22 in 15 seconds. So I plugged in a wired one and did it no problem.

hordewins의 댓글

Get the "juggler" add-on from curse it is amazing! (so much easier)

804871의 댓글

Thanks a lot for that post, after one missed try I did it for 11g with 20 torches...in first try I made the mistake that I threw them in front of me :-D

Codyre의 댓글

Just did it with 10. Here's a tip:

Open your achievement window and click the torch juggler achievement so it shows you how many you have to go. Have your torches keybound to number 1 (or whatever). Throw one torch, targeting under your character. Watch the achievement monitor and count to twelve. When it's about to reset, begin spamming 1 and click. By doing it this way you'll have almost all ten in the air right as the timer starts, giving you that precious extra second or two.

Hope it helps!

781136의 댓글

Altho it may sound logical...you do NOT need to waste your gold on 40 torches! I did it with 10, & noticed that 1st of all, the system only throws so many up at a time; if you try to throw too many up too fast, it tells you "spell not ready yet". This has less to do with "how fast youre clicking it" & more to do with the fact that it only will CATCH so many. 10 is plenty. You dont catch them "faster" with more.

I didnt disable any addons (i use quite a few) & had very low & fluctuating fps in Dal, sometimes 23!

Its NOT easy! It took me about 6 or 7 attempts, & with arthritic hands, this wasnt the most "fun" I've had doing one of these types of acheivements! lol But what worked best for me (for those that would like to forego the addon idea) was to attatch it to a hotkey & left click over top of myself. It was MUCH more effective. Still took a few tries, but keep glancing at your timer to see how it judges the rhythm of it. Dont stare at your timer tho, as you cant afford delays with this one!

Not quite sure why people are downrating every comment they see (this prolly will get downrated by some disgruntled person who hasnt had luck with this yet); but I'm passing this on to help people save their gold & hopefully some frustration! If you are upset & havent gotten this achievement yet, move to another comment that may help you & keep trying, but thats NO reason to downrate EVERY comment you see just because it may not of helped YOU. Theres many good suggestions here & hopefully each one can help someone! Best of luck to you!

799015의 댓글

It's has all been said... But the rhythm tip off has only been mentioned by several... and that is the key. Getting the achieve without rhythm is why posters are saying this is super hard.

Here we go:

You don't need an addon.
You only need 10 torches.
Bind torches to any key. (I used one of my less-used keys #6)
Stand on the spires of Violet Citadel.
Press the bound key, and then aim the mouse over your body for catching.
Get into a rhythm slowly (#6, left click to aim catch, #6, etc.).
Build it up to a fast comfortable speed. Do not spam click, button mash, etc.
Now just focus on your fast rhythm.
Keep it going. Faster as you get more comfortable.
Now just go one notch faster than comfortable...
Boom achieve.

(I found that if I stared at the tracked achieve I couldn't keep my rhythm as well.)
(I don't think you can catch torches without doing the prelim midsummer torch quests, at least a friend of mine couldn't.)

CorneliousJD의 댓글

I'm having a terrible time doing this... I'm running a Core i7, 6GB RAM, a GTX 460SE 1GB GDDR5 RAM, etc... so I know that my settings have nothing to do with it, I don't drop below 60 fps. I have 35ms ping, home and world, and nothing is working. I keep juggling them but I get MAYBE 30 by the time the 15 second timer hits.

120702의 댓글

Buttonsmashing worked for me after trying 10 times. Latency : 220 ms

pioneers14의 댓글

You really don't need an add-on for this! This achievement actually isn't that bad. Get about 10 torches (I think I had 11) - You really don't need any more than that. I put the torches in my #8 hot key and did a pattern between that key and my mouse. Just put the mouse directly under you that way you don't have to move anywhere. I clicked in a pattern motion but you still have to do a bit of button mashing. Hope this helps. It probably took me between 8-12 tries before I got the achieve! Good Luck!

Nitekitty의 댓글

I am finding this achievement to be extremely difficult. For some reason, my computer refuses to accept that I downloaded Juggler, and as that's not working, I created macros and have been trying to complete this for almost two hours. Sometimes, I get to 36 before the timer restarts, and others I can only get to 15! I've read almost all of the comments on here and watched a couple guide-to videos, AND I STILL CAN'T DO IT!
This might be the hardest achievement I've ever worked on! :(

Nitekitty의 댓글

!
Believe it or not, I FINALLY DID IT!
It took me two hours, but HEY! I did it, and thats what counts, right?
I don't think this is considered cheating, because the timer resets anyways, but what I did was get the amount of torches juggled as high as possible before the timer ran out, and then logged out. When I logged back in, it still showed as 20/40. So when I started juggling torches again, it took a few moments to catch up and realize I was doing it again.
I kept track of if I was going to make it or not by when it got to 7 seconds, if I had 20 ore more, then I was going to come very close to 40, if not make it.
Hope this helps :)
Good luck, you'll need it!

Damonra의 댓글

I couldn't do it using any of the macros or most of the advice listed here. One advice did help. The Juggler addon.

Curse.com was down for maintanence due to server problems, so I got the addon from wowinterface.

Basically, it allows you to you your mouse's scroll button to get the achievement.

Deardra의 댓글

I am just having the WORST time with the juggling achievement. I grabbed 40 torches, spammed them at my feet in Dalaran, and didn't catch a SINGLE ONE!
What the heck am I doing wrong? :/

pugsplz의 댓글

I did this achievement on my first try last year by just binding the torches to one key and clicking underneath me rapidly, but no matter how hard I tried this year, I couldn't get it on one of my other characters this way.

I tried some of the macros listed here, and I tried having one person press my binding as I clicked. Nothing worked.

Downloaded Juggler, got it easily my first try by scrolling my mousewheel back and forth.

227166의 댓글

Juggler add-on works a treat 1 of the best/fastest/simplist adds ive ever used, great add-on. /ding 1st go.

I suggest use install Juggler add-on. Its GREAT

aka
Blulightt

MoarHeroisms의 댓글

Since curse client was down for maintenance I tried the achievement this year without the addon. Got it on the second try by simply spamming the torch's keybind and the left mouse button simultaneously. I think what gets most people is the attempt at maintaining a rhythm, when really it's all about how fast you can spam.

sandyra의 댓글

If you've been pulling your hair out as I did, here is what you need to know:

You CANNOT purchase these from the Midsummer vendor until after you've completed 횃불을 잡아라! at which point you will receive 5 곡예 횃불 as a quest reward and then be able to purchase more at the aforementioned vendor.
You CAN purchase these at the auction house (you shouldn't have to pay more than 5g a piece).
You CANNOT attempt this achievement unless you have completed 횃불을 잡아라! - your torches will simply explode on the ground as if you weren't actually catching them. If you want to save your 불타는 꽃, do the quest, then purchase the balance of torches you need through the AH.
You will need 10-20 torches in your inventory depending on your lag in Dalaran (I failed miserably with 10, but 15 did the trick for me). You need to juggle 40 torches for the achievement, but remember you catch the ones you throw up once they come back down, so you don't need to have 40 in your inventory - and you need to stand in one spot for this obviously.
You will best achieve this by following all other post suggestions here and tossing the torches to yourself by targetting your feet - if you don't 'catch' your torches, they will be destroyed by exploding on the ground. Add-ons are helpful, but not necessary.
The second you score your achievement , DON'T MOVE... Catch the rest of your torches and hand 'em to a guildie or throw them on the AH. You will never be rich (in wow gold) if you are wasteful.

Now... What's next on the achieves list?

507061의 댓글

Well I am finding this impossible.

There now seems to be a short cooldown while throwing the torches. I have bound the torches to my 1 key and can spam it reasonably fast while clicking the mouse at my feet. The trouble is the cooldown. It is about half a second which means I can only get about 3-4 torches in the air at once. I hit the 1 key to activate the reticule then click the mouse to throw the first torch then, because of the cooldown, I can hit the 1 key 3-4 times before the reticule activates again. I can see a sweep happening on the torch button indicating some sort of cooldown.

If it is, for instance, a half second cooldown, then 40 torches in 15 seconds is impossible.

I have managed this achievement on 3 other characters in previous years quite easily ... not this year.

Spamming keys and mouse buttons really isn't much of an achievement anyway.

miniwidge의 댓글

Make sure you've completed the Torch catching quest in the major cities before you attempt to juggle in Dalaran. They're like practice and if you haven't completed the quest first, you'll drop all the torches in Dalaran.

845355의 댓글

Guys I found that assigning 3 buttons to do this achi was the best option.
For Example:

1) Put your Torches on Keyboard button 3
2) Create a new macro and enter this: /script SetBinding("2","CAMERAORSELECTORMOVE")
3) Create another new macro and enter this: /script SetBinding("1","CAMERAORSELECTORMOVE")

Once done, cycle buttons 3-2-1-3-2-1 etc etc and the achi will be done for you in no time!

After you got your achi you can delete the macros.

Hennix의 댓글

Get the Addon juggler and look to it that you got many torches that you can buy for blossoms at hte midsummer quartermaster and then go to town very easy !

Mahrio의 댓글

ONE IMPORTANT NOTICE: Do not forget to put your game in FULLSCREEN mode not WINDOWED FULLSCREEN mode. I just changed mode, and spamming the button (or you can use Autoclicker) like another comment said i did in the first pass. Thumbs up if this helped you.

738768의 댓글

Tried putting the torches on my 1 key and spamming the mouse button - didn't work. Tried using the juggler add on and still couldn't get it. Then on a whim I drank a haste potion I had in my bags and was able to get it on the first try. Don't know if that was the trick or what, but it worked for me. Hope that helps someone.

Armistice의 댓글

I completed this without the Juggler Addon. Go into the Underbelly. Go to the Cirle of Wills. Go under the building, Loc- 59, 58. There's a ledge on each side between rafters, jump up on there and you'll be really close to the ceiling. Make a torch a hotkey, target your feet, and spam. Got it on my second try

398045의 댓글

I don't know what else to do! I have tried everything everyone had mentioned and I can't get the torches past 22 in 15 secs. Need some help! Been trying for an hour now. =(

Nyabel의 댓글

I don't think it was mentioned yet, but you can throw these at/to a friend as well. So if your friends need the achievement, you both don't need to get the torches, you can just throw them at your friend and they'll find them in their inventory, similar to items like Heavy Leather Ball and Happy Fun Rock. More Midsummer currency saved for other purposes!

Also, this helps with completing the achievement a little, tried it with a friend of mine; If you know someone who has these torches, you can ask them to throw them at you while you're completing the achievement to get the 40 torches you need. Obviously two people throwing them at you well result in more torches caught, as I don't think there's a limit for how many torches you can catch at once.

mewmewface의 댓글

went to dalaran forgot to buy torch.

:_(

theres no vendors in northrend but correct me if im wrong.

Kazzo의 댓글

For the ones who fail with it. Make sure you got 15 torches in total. You get 5 from the quest.

You can buy 10 of them for 10 Burning Blossoms.
Simply set it on a comfortable keybind and keep pressing it and clicking the left mouse button.

Make sure you target under yourself.
Now you DON'T need the stupid 3rd party thing

847299의 댓글

So guys, I've been trying to do this achievement for almost a week now, and i kept failing.
So I came here to read your comments, and I saw lots of people posting about add on called Juggler, and I gotta say, it's the best thing for this achievement. Srsly, I did it in first try when i downloaded it. It's really awesome and it works great.:D So I recommend. :D

Ooglepants의 댓글

this may have been said already, but I tried many times and finally found out that this worked for me: (I have nothing else to compare it to, although i will try on some other characters.

I tried many times with 10 torches, but when I had 12, it worked on the first try.

I just spammed #1 (the torches on my bar) and mouse clicked just below my characters feet. That's it. No addon, no rhythm, no tricks.

847557의 댓글

So i have tried to read up on tips and tricks, and so far nothing. I dont want to use an addon, because for me that would take the fun out of achivement. My problem is that i constatly get that the item is not ready, but still i cant manage to get more that maybe 20 on the counter. If i do it slower and dont get that message I get even less. Even tried with different amount of torches, but the result is the same every time.

I have the tourches keybinded and use the mouse to click under me, taking turns. 1-click-1click-1click and so on. What is going wrong?

wowhead100의 댓글

I read all the entries for this quest and thought, damn this is gonna be difficult. Then I tried what SSHO said about using the island east of Dalaran and falling....that didn't work for me...I died...must have been too high. So I can't get to my body to rez so I had to go back to the spirit to rez. So I have rez sickness and can't try again...so I'm standing in Dalaran waiting for the rez sickness to wear off and I thought I would try practicing with the torches....I bined a key to the torch (15 of em) and alternated pressing the key and clicking the target under me...bam...first try got the achievement....

Atem의 댓글

Dear Wowhead comunity,

I know it may sound stupid ... but I tried everything ... from macros to installing the juggler addon from curse ... still nothing ... I couldnt get past 34/40 juggle. I kept reading the forums to find out a solution but I couldnt find the reason why I could not get this achievement done!

Then I realized that it is very possible that the weel of my mouse was probably too slow for such an achievement, I tried fixing weel speed but it did not work either. So instead I just rushed to my bro's room since he was away and stole his mouse: Tadaa! Achievement done in one shot ! :)

Its funny tho ... my mouse is quite pricey ... duno why it had such a slow weel speed.

so just a heads up if you cant do this achievement: CHANGE YOUR F'IN MOUSE :D

Thanks.

zerezam의 댓글

4.1, on my server I had 200ms there was a few things I had to do in order to get this achievement *THAT OTHER PEOPLE DIDN'T HAVE TO DO* on this comments page...

1) Only have a stack of 10 torches. I tried with 21 and 15 and it caused the error "Item not ready" which screwed up some other mechanic native to wow interface which didn't allow me to cast another torch.

2) Find a spot where there's as little lag as possible. The spot that worked for me was staring down at my character along a wall that was next to violet citadel in Dalaran.

3) Change the options in interface "custom interface lag" to whatever your world lag is. This tweaks your GCD just slightly, making it more feasible for your next torch to cast without the GCD still in effect.

4) I chose the option "Cast on key down, not key up".

5) Juggler mod - Using this mod which makes use of you simply spinning your mouse wheel to catch and throw torches at the same time made it perfectly attainable.

6) Disable all other mods besides juggler and turn graphics setting to low.

7) Pray that it works - a little luck doesn't hurt.

After one cycle, I had 10 torches in the air, none of that "Item not ready" error spamming my screen and easily achieved it.

I've never had to do so much indirect tinkering in order to get an achievement, ever.

brendonintendo의 댓글

So I'm gonna clear something up for you guys really quick. It seems like it would be logical, but I guess some people just don't realize it. Many people are saying you should buy 15 or more torches. This simply isn't true. I did this about on my 3rd try with 10 torches, and I'm sure it would have worked w/ about 8 or 9. Cause here's the thing, it doesn't matter how many you have, you can only throw about 8 or 9 up in the air at a time, since with 10 I always had at least 1 or 2 left in my backpack even when i was peaking with my throws. so if you have 15 or 20 torches, you're gonna have like 5-10 left over in your backpack no matter how fast you juggle them. So just trust me when i say, you dont need any more than 10.

bickins의 댓글

To those getting stuck at ~25ish:

In your bags, split your stack of 15 torches into 3 stacks of 5 torches.

What I found was with a single stack of 15 torches being spammed into the air, the game seems to cancel a good portion of my torch throws due to the caught torches re-stacking before a new torch could be thrown. By splitting the torches up into smaller stacks, you can throw more into the air than the game can stack into one pile & complete your achievement.

I got mine my first try after breaking them into smaller stacks, so give it a shot- It might work for you too! :)

Azgaryth의 댓글

Fudge! I can't get over 16. I have 15 torches and spam #1 and my mouse. So gay!

687849의 댓글

Tried all the non-Juggler tips to no avail. Split the torches into stacks of 5 and used Juggler. Instant success.

851163의 댓글

Wireless mouse vs wired. Only was able to get about 24 on the wireless, very rarely and randomly, hit 38 or 39.
Wired mouse, done in first try.
Something to consider.

845986의 댓글

Tyvm Thonster! That trick in the sewers really did it. I only got like 30 torches the other places in Dalaran, but in the sewers i got the achievement just after a few tries. Tyvm!

Tilz의 댓글

After spending all of the festival trying to get this achievement. The last day I decide to screw the spamming that been hurting my hand for days now. So I downloaded the Juggler AddOn. Then I got it on the first try with a good 13 seconds left!
So if you are still trying on this and failing at like 30-34 juggles, just download the AddOn and be out of your misery :)

783586의 댓글

well guess i will put this here.. since the GM can't seem to help..

I keep trying to do the achievement but when I toss the torch to myself it just lands on the floor... and just to let you know I did this achievement with 4 other toons so I know how to do it.

asked a Gm but they can't help...

by chance I tested if I could on a different toon and I was able to catch it... so not sure what's up. if its just my one toon having issues or what..

Anyone encounter this issue... where you can't catch torches they just fall to the ground?

494062의 댓글

I did this last year on a warrior, but now I can't get past 37 torches, and I'm wearing my hands out. Frustrating, when it's the only thing between me and a Violent Protodrake.

Tried installing that Juggler add-on, but WoW doesn't seem to know it's there. Perhaps Blizzard blocked it.

964467의 댓글

If you have curse client, I suggest downloading Juggler. You can use the mouse wheel instead of clicking 5 millions times. =] Once you have just hit /juggler and mini bar pops up telling you how much time is left and how many you have. Just point the mouse over your toons head and roll away. Took me a couple of times but I finally got the achv.

524964의 댓글

I've tried this with and without Juggler, and I get my torches back, but get no credit for catching them.

PoshKenneth의 댓글

Pretty sure I have carpal tunnel now

948153의 댓글

Not sure if this was mentioned before, but this achievement is actually quite easy. Just stand directly under the entrance to the Sewers, look down, and spam the button. Bam! Easy achievement. Hope this helps! :)

830889의 댓글

This was the last achievement I needed for my proto-drake and so I was getting really frustrated. I ended up going on top of the roof of the Cantrips & Crows - there's some crates off to the side near the fishers you can use to jump up there. I used the mouse built in on my laptop after having no luck with my wireless mouse - bot it on my third try with that, spamming my keyboard and left mouse key as fast as I humanly could. Good luck, it's a frustrating achievement.

housemonster의 댓글

I feel so dumb. I bought 30 torches to have 40 to toss. You do not need to do this! Just a few (around 10) will be fine if you target near yourself when throw them. The torches are not consumed - they return to your inventory to be tossed again!

They cannot be sold back, so please keep that in mind!

979798의 댓글

I stood in Dalaran for probably a good hour mashing keys and clicking my mouse until I was sure it was broken. I tried everyone's ideas from falling onto the floating island, using the purple parlor, even making the macros. Nothing worked. I'm pretty sure I have a few gray streaks in my hair from this achievement. This morning, I decided to download the Juggler add-on, the one thing I hadn't tried. Literally 5 seconds later I had my achievement and Flame Wardern title! If anyone else has been struggling with this achievement I highly suggest doing the same!

humadbane의 댓글

To get this achievement you need to throw your torches as low as possible so that it lands quickly to you. So how do you solve this problem? Find a low ceiling. And how to solve that problem? Well if you can stand on your head then the low ceiling would be the floor and the distance will be 0m. Since we can't do that....just stand under a staircase and go to the lowest part of it. There are 2 in the in.

1) Stand under the staircase
2) put your torches on a button
3) click the button and your mouse vigorously for a few seconds (make sure the round target is on you when you click your mouse) and lo and behold you got your achievement.

So anyone can find a lower ceiling then under a staircase? Oh ya 10 torches is enough.

Riencel의 댓글

Just put your torches on a button and ask a friend to spam the mouse button as you spam the torches button.

flypnay704의 댓글

Make sure there are no pat on the path that you're standing in while you're juggling, they will end up "catching" all your torches as they walk by you.

1002180의 댓글

Is this possible to do with 2000 latancy? becuse i used everything
List of things i have used:
1: making a macro with "/use juggling torch" (X3)

2: Using the add-on juggler (exactly how it is supposed to be used)

3: I tryed Kraan's video

I used all if these in the archmages room (the place you go with the book from high learner)

The enterance to the sewers

And in the middle of Dalaran itself.

Do you have any sudgestions? or is it jst impossible

stikz의 댓글

It was easy after I put my stack of torches on the 1 key and and then spammed 1 and left click.
I didnt disable jack and I have horribad latency. It was just a spam thing.

813726의 댓글

I'm not able to buy any torches this year from the Midsummer Merchants. They don't have them in their inventory to sell. Has anyone else had this problem?

kaimox의 댓글

You don't need to get to a special place. Just go somewhere in Dalaran without players or NPCs (who could catch torches by mistake).

1. Face a wall. Avoid pink areas (if your graphic card - like mine - has problems with that colour)
2. Zoom all the way in - go first person view.
3. Bind torch to a key.
4. Spam key and left mouse button simultaneously as quick as possible. (Get help if your fingers can't work that quick on both hands)
5. Profit.

It's not a lag problem, it's a graphic card problem.

813726의 댓글

Is anyone else having trouble buying the torches from the Merchant. I tried in Org and TB and neither merchant even sells them. I know you can get 5 from the quest, but where else can you get them?

859185의 댓글

if you have your achievement screen up and position the background to see your feet you can see the counter going up as you're spamming and tell if youre getting close or not

Kiriai의 댓글

I was in the sewer entrance and honestly just couldn't get it with just spamming my hotkeys. SO, I went and downloaded the addon "Juggler". At first I was a bit suspicious, but it actually worked great. Just entered /juggler to enable it, and used my mouse scroll wheel. Got it on my first try. Clicked the little "x", and the addon was disabled.

If anyone has ANY issues with this achievement, you should seriously consider downloading the addon!

:)

895102의 댓글

This seems to be pretty much impossible using just the standard interface. Thank you saiket for posting about the juggler mod .. installed it, worked on my first try.

1004102의 댓글

You can do this achievement with 10 Juggling Torches. Just carry on spamming them at yourself as quick as you can, that's how I did it! :D (When you catch a torch, I think it gives you one second added on to your 15 second timer )

1004177의 댓글

Kudos to Ducain for submitting his macros. The achievement "Torch Juggler" was the only thing standing between me and "The Flame Warden" and "What a Long, Strange Trip It's Been". Poor reflexes and long latency were killing me, and I had already wasted 40 torches. After implementing Ducain's macros, I travelled to the Dalaran sewers and found a spot with a low ceiling. By spamming the 1 and 2 buttons, I got the achievement with 25 torches on the first try without wasting a single torch. Thanks again Ducain, you have inspired my first and only posting to Wowhead. Azura on Skywall.

656835의 댓글

Found that standing in the sewer, next to the guild bank and mail box gave me a lowered ceiling, allowing me to get the achieve.

mek002의 댓글

I think my mains bugged am at 1/40 for the ache .. has this happened to anyone else ?

748649의 댓글

?CANT FIND JUGGLING TORCHES?

Spent forever trying to get the torches and thought my vendor was glitching up. To unlock the JUGGLING TORCHES you must first complete 2 quests. Because i am horde i travelled to Undercity (less populated than Org)
Here are the quest you need to complete to unlock the torches

these are the horde quests
Quest 1 - 횃불을 던져라!
Quest 2 - 횃불을 잡아라!
Alliance ones are as follows
Quest 1 - 횃불을 던져라!
Quest 2 - 횃불을 잡아라!

Torch tossing is pretty easy, just key bind the torch to action bars and throw to targeted flame beacon. The catching quest however is a little more difficult as you stand next to the brazier and use your Unlit Torches, this throws the newly lit flame torch up into the air and you mist anticipate where it will land so you can re-throw it, you must catch it 4 times in a row. The easiest way i found to do this is watch the shadow on the ground (so angle your camera up for a top down view). I found it easier to complete this in a less populated area like Undercity or for alliance maybe Exodar

For the actual achievement i would suggest getting the addon JUGGLER, this can be found on curse. The juggling achieve has gotten harder since last year with the time limit being reduced from 20sec down to 15. Juggler makes this extremely easier, got this so quick using it.

Hope this help all of you that are struggling

878376의 댓글

Well I live in Europe and play on US server, which means big latency, 205/205 at best, best, best times.

So i managed to crack this achievement regardless.

I was trying a lot and miserably failed each time until I disabled all my Addons and reduced graphic quality to low.

I completed the Achievement with 2 second to spare.

Also I noticed that people is writing that you need to be below low ceiling like in entrance to Dalaran Sewers (supposedly because torches bounce back down to you).
This is not true the torches have no collision with environment and just happily pass through the ceiling, it actually even increases latency a bit as rendering engine struggles more calculating position of the torch inside the wall.

Used the method described by Tolarian

Also to add, you really don't need any addons for this one, actually you need to disable them all if u have latency problem :)

Freedomage의 댓글

Just did this, barely made it, with two keys bound.

first key:
/use juggling torch
/use juggling torch
/use juggling torch
/use juggling torch
/use juggling torch

second key:
/script SetBinding("2","CAMERAORSELECTORMOVE")

Two stacks of 10 Torches

Mage: had 348 local and 938 world latency and 12 frames at 2Mbps and good SS
I used Dal sewer entrance.

Warrior: had 113 local and 119 world latency and 23 frames at 2Mbps and good SS
I used Dal sewer entrance.

1005811의 댓글

So, I bought about 15 torches to begin with. I ended up going to the Violet Hold and standing on one of the little individual island things. I linked my torches to 4 and tracked the achievement (shows you how much time is left and how many torches you've juggled) and started spamming the 4 key while clicking the mouse. I was on my second torch when i got Torch Juggler. Hope this works for you!

Posionclaw의 댓글

Id like more info on this juggler thing!

Magnatross의 댓글

If you mash click underneath your character, while mash pressing the torch keybind, then you can earn this achieve. Don't worry about pressing the keybind right before you click, just mash both of them like crazy :)

Magekin의 댓글

Do not attempt to download and install the addon "Juggler" as a comment below suggests. It will load your computer with all kinds of spam that you may have a hard time removing. Whether it does anything more malicious I haven't determined yet. If like me you aren't adept at reprogramming your mouse etc, the suggestion to go just into the entrance toward the sewers of Dalaran is a good one. Put the torches on your bottom left action bar slot then your number 1 key will activate throwing torches. When you do you see a green target circle; set that at your feet. This STILL is not so easy to accomplish; it took me a couple minutes of spamming "1" and the left mouse key before I finally got it (with a full 40 torches in inventory). It seems positioning yourself and the target properly at the sewer entrance is important.

1002282의 댓글

If you have gaming mouse that can create macros, for example gigabyte ghost m8000x you can create macro in few minutes to click left mouse button, release left mouse button, click button on witch is keybinded torch and then release it, but dont forget timer to actions! for timer i typed in 75 (only when your mouse 1~65535ms) after i created that macro i "placed macro" on button on mouse where i wanted it to be. IMPORTANT!: 1. Put your cursor on your character and dont move with mouse, you dont want to buy another 10 torches. 2. Track acheivment, do again step 1. 3. click on button and wait when you get acheivment, click again to stop macro, delete macro for security xD

BTW: I forgot that you need to change "mode" from 1 time to cyclic or it wont work. Hope it helped some of you guys :)

735486의 댓글

**Don't do what I did** which is, do quests with my hunter with Aspect of the Cheetah then mail torches to the person who needed the achievement. You will drop all the torches because your character doesn't know how to juggle them. Blizzard is a bit canny on mentioning this. Your actual same character has to do the quests. Get a hunter to group with you if you can't do the catching.

lehearts의 댓글

If you're having trouble doing this in 15 sec, the trick is to get your character to do as much of the "whoosh" part squeezed as close together as possible, when throwing the torch. If you're spam-mashing both keys, and you're not hearing the "whoosh" "whoosh" "whoosh" sound in a row, then you're not doing it right. For example, if you're hearing "whoosh" <0.1 sec pause> "whoosh" <0.1 sec pause> "whoosh" <0.1 sec pause>...you're going too slow. It should be literally "whoosh" "whoosh" "whoosh" "whoosh" "whoosh" as much as you can in a row with as few pauses as possible. I play from Japan with 216 ms on a good day, and did this with that method. Just spamming isn't as effective as trying to go for as many "whoosh" "whoosh" sounds in a row as possible.

Atem의 댓글

Why downvote all the comments on this page >_<

Some people are really trying to help and the reviews are useful! =)

mrneko의 댓글

1.- Buy 10 extra torches (+ 5 of the quest) = 15
2.- make a macro with "/use Juggling Torch" and put it your bar (ex: button 1)
3.- go to Dalaran's sewer entrance (for the low ceiling)
4.- Alternate and spam the macro + mouse click below you
5.- Achievement :-)

Stizelswik의 댓글

Where do you get the quest and torches from in Dalaran?

fishstix의 댓글

Thanks to : mrneko found below a few post. This works. Completed today, 6/25/13.
I did mine with 13 torches (happened to have that many in my bag).
2.- add the torch to your action bar
3.- go to Dalaran's sewer entrance (for the low ceiling)
4.- Alternate and spam the macro + mouse click below you
5.- Achievement :-)

499084의 댓글

Ok some clarification here:

You get the torches you need from doing the torch throwing/catching quests, you'll get a stack of 5 as a reward, that's all you'll need. (you can't buy more, at least as of this patch).

GIVE UP THE MOUSE. :-D The most you're going to get in 15 seconds with the mouse/keyboard combo is around 25, you really need to go all keyboard on this one.

I used the 2 macros from Freedomage's comment below, put them on my 1 and 2 keys on my keyboard, and after 3 or 4 attempts, I nailed it.

Set the quest for tracking so you can see how you're doing, and watch how many torches you have available (easily done once you have the torches anywhere in your action bar). You'll want to keep the number available between 1 and 2 torches.

....Farming all the festival fires was actually easier than this. :-D

Sorshana의 댓글

Button mashing works and so does using a mouse, but you have to be fast on the click for both. I cut it very close.

Use at least 10 torches, set to a hot key. Track the achievement so you can see your progress. Hover your mouse right where you're standing and don't move it. Mash hotkey and click in rapid succession. If you don't get it the first time, keep trying. Only took me 2 attempts.

Good luck and Happy Summer!

BcTsarIvan의 댓글

YOU DO NOT NEED 40 TORCHES TO DO THIS

if your an idiot like me you might think that you need 40 torches you dont you need only 10

Takkana의 댓글

To be able to buy torches you must first do 횃불을 던져라! and 횃불을 잡아라!.

knumpcy의 댓글

To update from previous posts This is the easiest method getting the Achievement.

Deathshay의 댓글

Just my 10 cents worth. I had 15 torches and put them on button 1. Stood outside bank in Dala with camera facing top down. Simply mashed 1 and left mouse and got it first time. This was considerably easier than catching 10 of the b*****ds in the first place!

sergantiz의 댓글

I have no idea why I bought 40x of them... guys you will do fine with ~15x

Scoobydeux의 댓글

All of the information you need to do this quest is scattered throughout this thread. This is an attempt to consolidate that information.

Step 1. Complete your faction's Torch Tossing and Torch Catching quests:

횃불을 던져라! and 횃불을 잡아라! (Horde)
횃불을 던져라! and 횃불을 잡아라! (Alliance)

(Not the More Torch Tossing and More Torch Catching daily quests; if you see these, you are done with this step)

Completing these two quests gives you five 곡예 횃불s, ten 불타는 꽃s, the ability to purchase more Juggling Torches from the vendor, and most importantly, the ability to catch the Juggling Torches. Note that while the Juggling Torches can be traded, mailed, auctioned and purchased, and placed and taken from your guild bank, if used by a toon that does not have this step complete, the Juggling Torches will be tossed, fall to the ground, and disappear, granting no credit.

Step 2. Acquire at least ten 곡예 횃불s. You only need enough for the number that are in the air at one time. You already have five from step one, and enough 불타는 꽃s for the rest.

I have generally purchased two vendor bundles, for fifteen total, but I don't think the extra five are necessary. I've never had more than ten in the air at one time (rarely more than nine), but I always use a room with a ceiling (see next step). One other posts mentions needing fifteen, ten was not enough, and one comment said he did it with only eight.

Edit June 22, 2017 - ten is plenty. You don't need fifteen.

Step 3. Go to Northrend Dalaran, per the achievement criteria. If you are way under-level, pay a mage to port you. Find an isolated spot, somewhere with little lag and no traffic. You do not want another toon walking over you while you are trying to catch; they could intercept the torch, intentionally or not. A low ceiling will limit torch travel, causing them to return sooner. I like a pattern on the floor for targeting.

Edit June 25, 2018 - You don't need a mage to port you to Dalaran at low levels. Take your faction's ship or zeppelin to Borean Tundra and take a flight to Dalaran. You should have that flight point, even on a new toon.

Step 4. Bind the torches to an action key; merely drag the torch icon to the key on the key bar.

Optional: I like to open my main bag so I can keep track of the number of torches. (This is how I know how many I've had in the air at one time.) You can also track the achievement to see the count; also see how close you are as you fail, so you can attempt to correct.

Step 5: Tossing a Juggling Torch requires using the torch (press the hot key) and clicking a target. Use one torch to get the targeting cursor and then place the targeting cursor on the feet of your toon.

Step 6: Spam both the hot key to throw the torches and the mouse button to target your toon. Ideally, you would alternate these in some reasonable fashion, but I found that when I tried to maintain some semblance of order, I was only getting to the mid 30s. Spamming both, I hit the required 40 easily.

It should take about forty-some clicks of both the hot key and the mouse button, but if you fail the first round of about forty, keep going. You'll have the advantage during the next round of the remaining torches that are already in the air from the previous round.

Post step: When the achievement procs, don't move. Torches you catch return to your bag, so give the torches time to fall back to you and reappear in your bag. Getting this achievement should not consume any of your torches, but I've lost a few by moving away too fast.

FWIW - Pre-Cata, lag in Dalaran was a challenging part of this achievement. This currently does not appear to be a significant factor.

edit 7/04/2016 - grammar edit.

edit 6/21/2017 - This takes place in Northrend Dalaran!

This is an older achievement, as such it was coded for Northrend Dalaran. Legion Dalaran was not even a thing yet. Assume any achievement that says "Dalaran" means Northrend Dalaran, unless it is specifically a Legion achievement.

FWIW, Northrend Dalaran is the second incarnation of Dalaran. In Vanilla and B/C it was a town in Hillsbrad Foothills; hence "Dalaran Crater". Mages can get a portal spell to "Ancient Dalaran" that will drop you into the crater from the old street level.

way245의 댓글

Click here to watch a video on how to do this the easiest way along with the 정열의 불꽃춤 achievement also.

1374013의 댓글

Torch Joggler https://youtu.be/6xFh_9Ix-vU

Tydfil의 댓글

tried several times and failed every time, have they altered something to stop the ease of this one or am i not doing something properly? getting irritating and very expensive.

Yarong의 댓글

To do this:

1. Click on yourself
2. Put the stack of torches on your hotkey
3. Hover your mouse above yourself
4. And Spam your hotkey
5. You get the Achievement

Jaredius의 댓글

You only need 5 torches unless you have some sort of illness that prevents you from spamming a hot key and a mouse button simultaneously. If that is the case, I am sorry and I will say a prayer for you.

Kaizeru의 댓글

If like me,you are slow and cant click on the keyboard fast enough, try dragging the torches to 2 buttons and tapping both, worked like a charm the first time I tried it.

Vildbasse의 댓글

I have done the 2 quests and I am in Dalaran. I have moved the torch to my action bar and clicked it and then clicked at my feet but can only create one juggling torch. What am I doing wrong

grundon의 댓글

Just completed this. You have to be in the older Dalaran in Northrend. There is a to there in your factions version of the Vale of Eternal Blossoms Shrine. Easy to do once you get to old Dalaran. Bind the torch to your keyboard then smash the key and click the ground beneath your toon.

martincepeda의 댓글

You need to be on Northrend Dalaran, not Broken Isles Dalaran

Wren의 댓글

Standing in a doorway anywhere in Dalaran seems to lessen the travel time for the torches.

Gnemlock의 댓글

MUST BE COMPLETED IN THE NORTHREND DALARAN!

While the achievement only says "Dalaran", it is important to note that you MUST do this in the Dalaran floating above Northrend. I spent ages trying to do this achievement, without any juggles counting, because I took the portal to "Dalaran" and ended up in the Dalaran floating above the Broken Isles.

If you do not know how to get to this Dalaran, you can catch a zeppelin from Orgrimmar (the zeppelin that looks like a shark), or catch a boat from the Stormwind harbour. Dalaran is floating above Crystalsong Forest. Helps to be able to fly, but as this is the lowest level Dalaran, you probably shouldn't have much trouble with that.

Sklatscht의 댓글

as of June 2017, still works as explained in the comments below/above.
The only Thing worth noting for People who wondered like me, you have to do this in the Dalaran in Nordend (Wotlk), not the Legion Dalaran!

Ruski의 댓글

Worth noting, you have to be in Dalaran - Northrend, not Dalaran - Broken Isles

KireynDRezyn의 댓글

This requires the Northrend Dalaran and doesn't work in Legion Dalaran.

dimestorecandy의 댓글

I realize this comment is of no use to most of you, but I hope this will prove invaluable to the minority that has the same issue I have had.

My laptop (it's an HP Pavillion btw) has one of those touch-pads that has no separate buttons for 'mouse' clicks. Instead it just has corners that tip the touch-pad slightly to create a sort of click. This device does not react well to click spamming. Attempts to rapidly click result in momentary lockouts in which the clicks are not recognized. It's not a settings issue - it's a problem with the physical way that the thing bounces to generate click responses. It's not a problem that is usually apparent, even with most fast-paced applications like games. It really only manifests when a continuous barrage of clicks is needed.

I've had this problem before, for example during the 'Love Is In The Air Holiday' there was no way for me to complete 'The Rockets Pink Glare' because, like Torch Juggler, a target had to be clicked on by spamming a mouse.

So, when I was failing at Torch Juggler this holiday I was determined to find a solution. The usual advice about finding a quiet location, adjusting resolution, hot-keying the torches, etc etc, none of that was sufficient to overcome the poor performing touch-pad.

So, I went into Control Panel (yes, this is Windows, but I've read there are similar abilities on Macs) and selected 'Ease of Access Center' then "Make the Keyboard Easier to Use" (or 'make the mouse easier to use' they both have the next thing) then select 'Turn on Mouse Keys' then OK then restart the computer.

After booting back up, do a check as follows: Click on a folder then hit the number 5 twice on your numeric keypad. If that opens the folder, it means the middle of your numeric keypad is now acting like a left mouse click. If it doesn't work, try hitting Num Lock then repeat this test.

Now start WOW and prepare for this achievement using the good advice already in this article. Start spamming the hotkey for the torches but spam the number 5 on your numeric keypad instead of the mouse click spamming. Spam away as fast as you can and you will soon complete this achievement.

Don't forget to go back to Ease of Access, turn off mouse keys, and restart when you get a chance.

Hope this helps.

craggaz의 댓글

Hey guys just want to make it clear you have to be in Dalaran in Northrend and NOT in the broken isle version.

I learnt this the hard way XD

FreckledFraggle의 댓글

OLD DALARAN! For some reason, I'm not finding this valuable information in any of the top-rated posts. As of this year's event, you must be in Old Dalaran (in Northrend) to complete this achievement, as myself and my husband attempted this in "new" (cough) Dalaran and it would not trigger the achievement.

Snyderz의 댓글

YOU MUST BE IN OLD DALARAN, the Dalaran which is in Northrend, not the dalaran that is in Broken Isles. You wont get progress if your in Broken Isles Dalaran.

podypodpod의 댓글

old dalaran if people missed that

DrSubscribe의 댓글

The torches will return to your inventory, so you only have to buy 5 in order to do this. Might save a couple of Burning Blossoms

Just throw them directly under you in Dalaran

Kemaredish의 댓글

If you are unable to do this go to OLD! Dalaran in Northrand and look at youtube video showing how to do it in sewers.

silentlalita의 댓글

You must go to old dalaran. In BFA, there is a portal in the portal rooms of stormwind and org to go to old dalaran.

Alaitos의 댓글

You have to complete quest Torch catching in order to complete this achievement otherwise you are not able to catch the torches

GamerSmoosh의 댓글

/use juggling torch

Erasmous의 댓글

You need to do in Dalaran this achivment (Northrend).
make this makro and use it on scroll, on your mouse, is the best and faster way to do it.
Just dont move then you do it.
/use Juggling Torch; Juggling Torch

DizzyHarris의 댓글

For those that are looking through the outdated posts for addons or crazy zoom wheel macro's, there is no need. Here is an updated macro and instructions for 8.3.0

1. Create this macro and put it on your bar
#showtooltip
/use Juggling Torch

2. Buy 15 torches (you can probably do it with less, that's just what I bought.)

3. Head to old Dalaran in the sewer (low ceilings)

4. With your cursor on your character's feet, spam the macro until you get the achievement. It should take roughly 6 seconds.

5. Save the macro and use it with other reticle targeting spells. Like Earthquake, Hunter traps, Starfall, Blizzard, Meteor.. so on and so forth.

Have fun.

deepspace8의 댓글

Northrend Dalaran, not Broken Isles Dalaran!

When in doubt, check the date of the comments.

2245526의 댓글

HINT -- you don't need to buy 40 torches because they come back to your inventory once you catch them, so even 10 may be enough.

DisRuptive1의 댓글

For those of you struggling with fancy macros containing or and what not, you need to do this manually. Put the item on your bar and spam it while also left clicking the ground under your character and you should be able to get the achievement.

Dwreck69의 댓글

Just spent 15 minutes spamming my torch macro in the wrong Dalaran. My hand hurts but after I went to the Northrend Dalaran I got my achievement in one go!

Oaalu의 댓글

This requires being in the WotLK's Dalaran in Northrend, not Legion. The Torches will not be tallied in Legion's Dalaran in the Broken isles. It took me a few minutes to wonder why I wasn't getting credit for torches caught, and this was the issue.

I recommend buying 10-20 Torches and creating a macro targeting yourself to facilitate the quick spam of the torches to fit within the fifteen second window.

Here's what I used:

#showtooltip
/use Juggling Torch

Good luck!

Rubz93의 댓글

The following is a quicker version of the macro that @DIZZYHARRIS created:

#showtooltip
/use Juggling Torch

They did an amazing job on explaining how to quickly complete the achievement, so check out their post for more details!
My version of the macro simply allows you to skip the step that you have to point at your feet because it automatically does it for you.

Phoenyxphiyre의 댓글

Just fyi, you CANNOT complete this achievement on a character without that specific character having completed the torch tossing and torch catching intro quests, even if you have someone else to feed you torches from the vendor - the game will let you toss all the torches you care to waste but not let you catch a single one of them...

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