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jjanchan의 댓글

There are 15 Master Tamers on the Broken Isles. There are achievements associated with beating any 12 of them with a team of three pets from the same family; completing all of these achievements grants the meta 온 가족이 다함께, which awards the 악몽 나무정령 pet.

Below is a list of all such achievements.

Achievement

Pet Family

순수한 물의 힘을 느껴 보아라!	Aquatic
동물의 왕국	Critter
땅, 불, 바람, 물... 정령!	Elemental
서로 생긴 모습은 달라도	Humanoid
인간 시대의 끝이 도래했다	Mechanical
약육강식의 세계	Beast
용 족 출 현	Dragon
하나된 날갯짓	Flying
마법의 지배자	Magic
꼬마 강령술사	Undead

poarro의 댓글

This is the kind of achievement that is so pleasant to achieve!
It's fun, challenging, long, people must be smart, know the game and because of all that have a good reward at the end!
Very nice! =:-)

Aranesh의 댓글

This achievement is one of the largest and toughest additions to the pet battling world. It might even beat the Celestial Tournament in required effort. In total you need to do 120 individual fights, with different setups for every single one of them.

I'm still in the process of creating strategies, but about 80% is done. Due to the immense amount of data, putting everything here is quite impossible.

On Xu-Fus page however you will have access to all of them:
http://www.wow-petguide.com/index.php?m=FamilyFamiliar

It will also show you a list of pets you'd need to follow my guide. All of those are available pre-Legion, so you can go in well prepared once it launches :-)

Cymre의 댓글

I'm really loving the variety of pets I've been able to use in all these challenges and am currently in the process of working through all 120 combos. Feel free to follow my progress on the blog and on youtube.

The full list of pets will be added once I've completed the challenge.

Xhanon의 댓글

Hello everyone!

I am just here to inform you, if you unfortunately defeat any pet battle tamer with 2 pets only, where the 3rd pet is not alive before engaging the fight, and still manage to defeat the trainer, with all beast pets for example, it does NOT count for any of the achievements unfortunately.

It happened to me when i was using Mr grubbs, and Zao against ''Robert Craig'' for the Best of the Beasts Achievement.
managed to kill him with only 2 pets but my last pet was not alive during the engage of the battle, so it didnt count.

Also, having multiple characters makes you able to do more steps of the achievement each day. (tested and works)

Happy Hunting!

Whiterock의 댓글

Here is the information on location and pet teams of all the trainers needed:

Pet Master	Location	Pets	Associated World Quest
아말리아	달라란	발발이 푸푸 지글이	전투의 밤: 아말리아
보디 선웨이버	달라란	간질이 소금기 머금은 새 그로밋	전투의 밤: 보디 선웨이버
갈브스톤 경	달라란	머키스턴 경 코치 가장 큰 적	전투의 밤: 갈브스톤 경
티파니 넬슨	달라란	징크스 로켓 마시멜로	전투의 밤: 티파니 넬슨
어둠감시자 메레일	아즈스나	살랑이는 책 유익한 영혼 연약한 나방	어둠감시자와의 훈련
듀리안 스트롱프룻	발샤라	햇님이 뿌리 아기부리	듀리안과의 훈련
조르바슥	발샤라	트릭시 방울이 악몽 새싹	사티로스 대적하기
브레다 텐더하이드	높은산	작은 영혼 길잡이 퀼리노 페티르	브레다와의 훈련
그릭시스 타이니팝	높은산	꼴깍이 알토란 빨간 전선	작은 밀렵꾼과 작은 동물
오드로그	높은산	돌팽이 느림보 콧물이	달팽이 대전!
로버트 크레이그	스톰하임	난폭엄니 움파스 바엘로스	충실한 야수들
덫사냥꾼 자룬	스톰하임	안개 망령 가아재 갉작이	자룬의 사다리
아울리어	수라마르	아름이 소신 존엄	애완동물의 지배자
바렌	수라마르	귀스토 레미 저녁밥	칼질 전문
특급 조련사 플러먹스	수라마르	특급 조련사 플러먹스	플러먹스화

gmack28의 댓글

Credit/Completed with 2 Dragons in action and 1 Dragon not used. First action Dragon died.

Suggestions의 댓글

This addon: World Quest Tips & Timers helps track your progress on this achievement (amongst other things)

So you can see if you need the current pet battle world quests right from the world map - It adds to the tooltip of a pet battle World Quest (and the NPC) the following:

If you have never done the quest it adds name of the achievement plus progress eg:
부서진 섬에서의 전투 (14/30)
Then it adds each meta not met from 온 가족이 다함께, with progress. For example:

꼬마 강령술사 (5/12)
동물의 왕국 (3/12)
약육강식의 세계 (8/12)
순수한 물의 힘을 느껴 보아라! (0/12)
인간 시대의 끝이 도래했다 (1/12)
You can ignore up to 3 tamers per achievement (as you only need 12/15)
You can also Alt-Click on the world quest to add you own note to the tooltip and get links back to Wowhead and Aranesh's awesome wow-petguide.com

Let me know what you think, and/or if you have any suggestions for me to add/change.

Edit: World Quest Tips & Timers will now function for any localization.

1170496의 댓글

Not sure about this. Actually, not liking at all;

Celestial pets achievement; 12 weeks max, login once a week. Reward; achi and 4 unique pets.
This? Around a year of log in daily, hoping for best and effort of completing. Reward; reskin pet of questionable value.

Why a year? Well, 30 WQ pet battles, 3 spawn daily, of which 15 are trainers. None are quaranteed to be up daily(WQ don't rotate, they just RNG).

Even if looking at 1 trainer, 10% chance to spawn, need 10 times. I'd say 3 months on average to get one trainer complete.

Now apply that for 15 trainers :p

So yeah, great achievement, as in you actually need time and effort to do, but that you might not even be ABLE to complete during Legion, for a reskin pet...kind of needs tuning.

Advice i'm getting at here? Don't try to achieve this by any effort, just keep it in the back of mind when playing. Chances are, most of us can't complete it.

AveryZan의 댓글

This feels like a huge oversight to me. Why have it in a way that you need to wait for a day by day basis and rng? Let the trainers just be up at all times and you just don't get a world quest reward for them.

Ozzayel의 댓글

Does anyone else feel like they are losing progress on this over time?
As I keep going with it and checking all my achievement progress each time I have a new battle to do I'm sure I had better completion on some and it's disappeared.

It's hard to keep track because there's so many so I am probably mistaken, but has anyone else thought this?

alpanhell의 댓글

No one gives any information on how this is done?

If I have 3 pets do they all have to be active at least once? Get a hit in or take damage? Do they all 3 have to live at the end?

LSavage의 댓글

This is quite a long achievement but not as tough as some people are predicting. Longer than the Celestial Tournament certainly, but the fights themselves are pretty simple.

Firstly, none of the teams you fight against are particularly demanding. Secondly it is not a requirement to beat it with every family, so if a team is particularly tough on one family, simply skip it out. The "challenge" really is just perservering with it until it is done.

I was interested in figuring out how long this achievement would take to complete (estimates of "the whole expansion" just seemed a bit extreme to me) so I decided to do a bit of analysis on the problem to figure out statistically what to expect, assuming equal probability of each trainer spawning.

There are 37 possible pet dailies
15 of them are the trainers needed for this achievement
There are 3 pet dailies per day
You need to complete a total of 120 quests
A single trainer can be used for a maximum of 10 of those quests

So you will on average get 3 x 15/37, or 1.2 trainers per day. As you start approaching the end of the achievement, some of the trainers may end up having been used for all 10 pet families, so they will no longer be available.

I put together a spreadsheet** to calculate the statistical likelihood of a pet trainer appearing more than 10 times during the grind. The results are as follows:

The statistical probability of a pet trainer appearing more than 10 times after 120 battles is as follows:

11 times: 8%
12 times: 4.7%
13 times: 2.8%
14 times: 1.5%
14 times: 0.7%

In short, over a period in which you expect 120 relevant trainers to appear, you can expect an average of 5.3 appearances by trainers who have been used for every pet family already. At 127 battles, you will expect to have had 7 appearances by "capped" trainers.

In other words, you need to have, on average, 127 pet trainers appear. At 1.2 trainers per day that is 106 character days (which can be spread across alts to reduce the time needed to finish). Bear in mind that this is an average, and some people will require a few more days, some less. But it is a pretty decent ballpark to go on

The other thing to remember is to make sure that you don't land up with trainers spawning that are only available for pet families you have already done your 12 quests.

To this end I recommend working on keeping parity between the progress of each pet family. When selecting which pet family to fight for you, select the one with the least progress towards its achievement. That way you'll be unlikely to waste a trainer on a pet family that is already done.

Another personal note is that I don't use these battles to boost lower level pets. It's not impossible, but it just doesn't seem very efficient given the various constraints when chasing the achievement. ie it would be quicker to go fight pet trainers from Pandaria or Draenor which I am familiar with than to figure out (largely by trial and error) 120 combinations for the various achievement permutations.

Happy battling!

Edit PS: Having completed this quest some time ago and re-reading this guide, I will add that my assumption that the pet trainers have an equal spawn probability was not accurate. Some are definitely rarer than others. That being said, it didn't have that big an effect on the time needed to complete the achievement.

** The spreadsheet calculates the cumulative probability of a trainer having appeared Y times by battle X. It starts by calculating the probability of having appearing once by battle X. It then calculates, based on the odds of it having appeared once by battle X-1, together with the probability that it may have appeared twice by battle X-1, the cumulative probability of having appeared twice by battle X. And so on for each succesive battle and number of appearances.

wowZhenek의 댓글

I have quite bad experience with this achivment. Some trainers literally never spawn. Aulier, Xorvasc, Varenne, Odrogg, Master trapper flummox. I mean, I've got 2 chars lvl 110, yea, and I'm already done with like 50% of trainers on ALL families with just 2 chars and yet I hardly ever got to fight the aforementioned trainers. Basically obligatory "$%^& you blizzard".

kamalia의 댓글

As of right now:

Flock Together (Amalia, Aulier, Varenne, or Flummox) Anyone of these.

Murlocs Harpies, and Wolvar, Oh My! (Amalia, Aulier, Varenne, Jarrun, or Flummox) Any 2 of these.

Master of Magic (Amalia, Aulier, Varenne, Jarrun, Flummox) Any 2 of these.

The Lil' Necromancer (Amalia, Aulier, Varenne, Xorvasc, Odrogg, Jarrun, Flummox) Any 4 of these.

Like others I haven't seen a single trainer spawn in Suramar in weeks. I have 3 level 110's and almost everyday I log in the world quests are Fight Night but none of the trainers, or no trainer quests spawns, and even worse I'll see the same quest for 3-4 days in a row. This is super frustrating and I really hope blizzard figures this out.

Update: Sent in a ticket to blizz to see if this is bugged or not. Got some stupid copy/paste response saying that they are random spawns and that if I believe it's a bug to report a bug. (So basically they aren't going to do anything or don't know anything.)

Last update: It seems that they may have resolved the issue as a tamer in Suramar spawned... this was of course after I got the achievement done waiting around for other tamers to spawn. GG Blizzard.

kendallzemp의 댓글

This is a question, if anyone who knows the answer could please respond here? Can your team contain two of the SAME pet? For example, for an all-humanoid team, may I use two Anubisath Idols?

saillaw의 댓글

Short but important info that is hidden in some of the longer but useful posts in this thread:

First:

To this end I recommend working on keeping parity between the progress of each pet family. When selecting which pet family to fight for you, select the one with the least progress towards its achievement. That way you'll be unlikely to waste a trainer on a pet family that is already done.

(Credit to LSavage's post above.)

Second: Use the World Quest Tips & Timers addon... it saves so much time flipping between the achievements.
(Credit to Suggestions' post above.)

Third: For strategies use Xu-Fus' webpage.
(Credit to Aranesh's post above.)

Fourth: Be patient... this is building a mountain a spoonful at a time, but eventually you'll be able to ski and the prize will be that much more valuable as a result.

Gearloose의 댓글

Got tired of having to count up the completed criteria for each family to see how much was left for this one, so the following will provide a quick view of your overall progress:

/run t=0;for i=9686,9695 do c=0;for j=1,15 do _,_,x=GetAchievementCriteriaInfo(i,j);if x then c=c+1;end;end;t=t+c;print(GetAchievementLink(i)..": "..c);end;print("Total for "..GetAchievementLink(9696)..": "..t.." ("..(math.floor(t/1.2)).."%)")

hotcore의 댓글

I just completed this achievement. My advice is to use alts. It makes this achievement much less time consuming. The only issue will be having all the pets needed for the battles. I found the pet battler: Robert Craig to be the hardest. This one took me the longest to beat. Good luck :)

ImJustACopy의 댓글

갈브스톤 경 | 땅, 불, 바람, 물... 정령! | 온 가족이 다함께 | 악몽 나무정령

FOR ALL ELEMENTAL PETS

갈브스톤 경 Team, Stats & Abilities
머키스턴 경 final battle: 축복받은 망치, 떨어지는 멀록, 정의로운 독려.
코치 first fight: 난타, 아드레날린 촉진, 비상.
가장 큰 적 second fight: 용숨결, 회복의 불길, 어둠불꽃

YOUR TEAM & STRAT PRIORITY *until death do us part*

Pet1) 잿빛돌 심장 (1,2,1)

역순환 = 2nd move > filler/spam *until death
돌가죽 = 3rd move only
수정 감옥 = 1st move > when Murkeston rejoins

Pet2) 살아있는 아기 모래정령 (H/S) (1,2,2)

주먹질 = filler/spam *until death
모래폭풍 = 1st move only
모래수렁 = 2nd move only

Pet3) 꼬마 라그나로스 (1,2,1)

설퍼라스 강타 = 3rd move
점화 = 2nd move
화염방사기 = 1st move

NOTES
*when Coach dies Ashstone’s health should be 500(+).
*Ashstone should face Foe’s first Breath.

cheers,
you win :D

BethofHearts의 댓글

Finally finished this today. The fact you only get one lousy pet after all of this is a joke

pat33의 댓글

After doing half of this achievement all I had in mind is: FU don't debase yourself!

Too F-long, and what about IRL? If you want to punish players next xpac it's exacly the kind of achievement to copy and paste!

No ty Blizzard.

ImJustACopy의 댓글

용 족 출 현 | 어둠감시자 메레일 | 온 가족이 다함께 | 악몽 나무정령

FULL 마력의 탑 새끼용 TEAM (2, 2, 2)

냉기 숨결 = filler / spam
마력의 폭풍 = 2nd move > on cd OR pet swap to use again
비전 폭풍 = 1st move > on cd OR pet swap to use again

NOTES
*I used (P/S) > (P/P) > (P/B); though any breed should work.
*I pet swapped to use high dmg abilities again vs using pets until death.
*Alternative dragons with 비전 폭풍 & 마력의 폭풍 should work. Choose the higher dmg option for filler/spam.

~cheers~

Rifkin11의 댓글

FYI - Since Legion Assaults began, I had always just assumed if a Tamer was supposed to be up in that area, then they wouldn't be accessible until the assault was over (mainly because only the assault quests show on the map). I actually went and checked today..... Although the Tamer has no quest to offer, you can talk to them and challenge them to fight. No quest reward (because no quest was offered) but it ticks off the portion the achievement :)

kaijester의 댓글

For tomtom users:

Macro #1
/way Azsuna 46.4 40.4 Nightwatcher Merayl
/way Dalaran:Broken Isles 28.3 23.4 Bodhi Amalia Tiffany Galveston
/way Highmountain 47.6 69 Bredda Tenderhide
/way Highmountain 44.6 22.6 Odrogg
/way Highmountain 41. 35.8 Grixis Tinypop

Macro #2
/way Stormheim 78.4 57.2 Robert Craig
/way Stormheim 56.8 46.2 Trapper Jarrun
/way Suramar 52 54.8 Aulier
/way Suramar 63 60.6 Varenne
/way Suramar 25.2 62.6 Master Tamer Flummox
/way Val'sharah 63.6 60.6 Xorvasc
/way Val'Sharah 47 39.6 Durian Strongfruit

Johnsphil의 댓글

The best way to expedite getting this achievement is to do the battles multiple times while a single battle is up. For example I start at the top of my character list and pet family list and work my way down, omitting the families I may already have completion for!

Hellstryke의 댓글

I am seriously getting to the point where I'm going to cancel my subscription. This frickin' achievement is insane. For starters, once in a blue moon do the pet battle masters that are listed actually show up on my map. Half the time, the pet quests that DO pop up on my map are guys who aren't even part of the achievement such as Chromadon or Sissix to name two. Next, Nightwatcher Marayl ALWAYS seems to up. I have that one NPC done on all of my various "Family Familiar" progressions, yet a few like Bodhi, Odrogg, Master Tamer Flummox, Aulier and Varenne almost NEVER show up which makes it IMPOSSIBLE to finish this damned achievement. I'm all for achieves that take some time and effort, but I've been pursuing this for MONTHS and those 5 NPC's I listed almost NEVER show up which makes it pretty damned impossible to finish the quest. Sort it the **** out because this is pushing me to the point of quitting this game. I don't appreciate my time being wasted. Oh, and I log in and out many, many times throughout the day checking. I'm NOT going to set my alarm clock to wake me up in the middle of the damned night to check for pet NPC spawns. People have lives and need to work. Achieves SHOULD be attainable for all of us, not just kids or welfare losers who have nothing better to do with their lives and don't have to follow a working mans clock. Sort it out!

Hellstryke의 댓글

Lets go Blizz! I've been down to the final fight for this stupid achieve for a week and you keep spawning pet battles that I've either already done, or don't qualify for the achieve like the stupid Chromadon or Splints Jr fight etc. I need Grixis, Xorvasc, Robert Craig or Amalia to finish this hellish grind for good. Frickin' RNG bull&*!@.....

Perothvius의 댓글

Worst archivement i ever seen....

BigRed의 댓글

For a while now, one can battle the tamers after the world quest has been finished. I've just worked through all families against 오드로그 on a single character. This should speed up things tremendously.

geoffreytchew의 댓글

Like the previous comment said, I was able to battle a trainer multiple times if their associated world quest was up. This enabled me to do all 10 teams for that one trainer in a single session. But, it appears that you still must wait for the trainer's world quest to be up in order to battle them. I was curious if things had been updated in patch 8.1 and I went looking for the other trainers when their world quests were not up but could not find any of them.
Update: I was not able to battle Durian Strongfruit more than once on a single character. Not sure if this was a dev oversight, but so far I've been able to battle all of the other trainers multiple times with a single character when the world quest is up.

geoffreytchew의 댓글

I just completed this achievement, and I think they should rename it to "Pet Battle Burnout". I'm going to boycott the other family related achievements, because I think that they're not very creative and the reward doesn't justify the effort. I'd like to challenge the development team to come up with some more interesting and creative alternatives to these repetitive grinds.

ChefCraizeeMayze의 댓글

As of today (8.1.5) you can do all of the different types of battles needed for one enemy all at once. I did Bhodi, Amelia and Bredda so far. Just stood there on my shaman (who I am currently leveling through pet battles) started with Aquatics and went down through to Undead. Took a while (2 hours about) because I wanted to figure as much as I could out myself. But this achievement should on.y take as long as it takes for them all to spawn. Except for one guy who only seems to let you fight him once. So keep checking the WoWHead front page for who is up. There seems to be at least one up every day now.

This works the same for the BfA achievement. Just stand there and do all the fights at once. They don’t even have to be a current quest giver, they are up all the time I believe.

barneylegh의 댓글

The most annoying of the PVE family achievements.

You can only battle the trainers when their WQ is up - except Durian Strongfruit (who is an easy win for ALL families) is bugged, meaning you can only fight him once per character.

The pet is visually striking, but not actually that great for battling. Ah well!

caroleen의 댓글

Only took 6 years but Durian Strongheart finally got fixed. You can now battle him repeatedly.

Demiano의 댓글

What am I missing here? its been over a year with me checking daily and 6 of the required tamers NEVER came up with world quests. Is this achievement supposed to take 20 years or is it broken?
EDIT: OK so nobody mentioned this and I wasted a year for nothing, there are 4 pet tamers dailies that spawn in Dalaran and DO NOT show up on your world map if you have the daily quest addon, you have to click on Dalaran and look at Dalarans map to see if they are up... wow. ALSO there are 2 that spawn in suramar and if havent done the suramar quest line they dont show up for you. I logged on my old main from legion and sure enough he could see them. I finally got the achievement done

Cocodamol의 댓글

Absolutely SUCKY quest as multiple times you'll get days, like today, where NONE of the required quests are up! Typically Blizzard sucking with their achievement designing

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	순수한 물의 힘을 느껴 보아라! (1)
	동물의 왕국 (1)
	땅, 불, 바람, 물... 정령! (1)
	서로 생긴 모습은 달라도 (1)
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	용 족 출 현 (1)
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	악몽 나무정령

가이드

Legion Battle Pet Overview

온 가족이 다함께

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