Nynaeve의 댓글

Currently a tailor-made item requiring ~~ten~~ now 100 사술매듭 옷감 and ten 마술의 대지.

If the recipe stays the same as it currently is on beta (the new recipes):

At 20 호화로운 모피 and 10 고르그론드 파리지옥풀 per 사술매듭 옷감, one hundred 사술매듭 옷감 will require the following mats:

A maximum of
500 호화로운 모피
200 고르그론드 파리지옥풀

A minimum of *
200 호화로운 모피
100 고르그론드 파리지옥풀

( 1. This does not include cloth received from Garrison work orders.)

One of the spells to create 사술매듭 옷감 now creates 4 per use, and another, 사술매듭 옷감 produces up to 10. These are based on your skill level. You will create 4 per use at non-max, and 4+ at max level.

Obtaining 마술의 대지 may seem simple enough, but it may yet be an arduous task, as it is "A magical byproduct of Blacksmithing, Inscription, Jewelcrafting and Leatherworking," and Earth isn't the only possible byproduct.

사술매듭 가방 has two more slots than the 왕실 가방, a tailor-made item requiring 12 황제의 비단, and also two slots more than the new (with Warlords) 그론가죽 가방 (most likely a raid drop, but don't yet know).

The next largest bags after these three are the following: 환영 가방 at 26 slots, a tailor-made item requiring 8 꿈결 옷감, 휴대용 구멍, 코르크론 보급품 가방, 누더기 사술옷감 가방, and 그루멀짐 at 24 slots, and 잿불비단 가방, 아저씨의 신상품 가방, 넓어진 오닉시아 가죽 배낭, 용 가죽 가방, and the 거인의 가방 at 22 slots.

P.S. Blizzard, I love you, but don't make me have to re-do the math a 5,934th time, please? Kthx!

lonwolf892005의 댓글

Why do we keep getting bags that aren't multiple of 4! For people that don't use bag addons, those 2 missing slots floating inside a bag are a nightmare!

1196608의 댓글

notice how you only need 1 in tailoring to make this :P

stephnheather의 댓글

Many players with gold to spare will only settle for the biggest bags possible, and this is going to be it in WoD.

DEJA-VU
This bag will require a player to be exalted with one of the two new factions in Draenor much like a tailor needed to be exalted with the August Celestials in MoP before being able to buy the recipe. The new factions are Shattari Defense and Laughing Skull and can be unlocked by building a Trading Post (note that it must be a level 3 Trading Post to be able to reach exalted).

1347270의 댓글

SO MUCH BAG SPACE, CAN'T HANDLE...

piraka810의 댓글

This is a new 30 slot bag, made by tailors. It is taught from 도안: 사술매듭 가방.

Blaxus1의 댓글

I feel a more updated guide to this bag is in order, now that WoD is finally out.

tl;dr
It takes around 5 days to make this bag, with 700 Tailoring
It takes like 7+ days to make this bag, below 700 Tailoring

There are 4 ways to get 사술매듭 옷감
1. Work orders which maximum yield is 2 Cloth
2. you can use the daily cooldown 사술매듭 옷감 (사술매듭 옷감 until Tailoring 700)
3. Buy 1 with 10 원시 영혼
4. Blingtron gift drops some too

There are 3 ways to get 마술의 대지
1. Buy 1 with 25 원시 영혼
2. Buy from the Auction House
3. Byproduct from Work Orders and Crafting
Note that only Blacksmithing, Inscription, Jewelcrafting, and Leatherworking buildings or professions can produce this byproduct.

More information / Longer Version

About 사술매듭 옷감

사술매듭 옷감 produces between 4 and 10 사술매듭 옷감, depending on your Tailoring skill. Below level 600, you only produce 4. Between level 600 and 700 the yield slowly increases to reach 10 at level 700.

Work Orders produce between 1 and 2 사술매듭 옷감. The closer your 기쁨로봇 8000 is to 100, the higher the chance that the yield will be 2. With a guarantee when your 기쁨로봇 8000 is 100.

The cheapest of the two methods is 사술매듭 옷감, because getting 고르그론드 파리지옥풀 every day is very easy with a Herb Garden. With a follower in the herb garden you can choose what to plant. If you choose 고르그론드 파리지옥풀 those will be the ones you harvest yourself, not the yield from work orders.

About 마술의 대지

The easiest way to get 마술의 대지 would be Buying it from the Primal Trader with 원시 영혼.
Alternatively you could get it from the Auction House, or trade with Guild or Friends who are Crafters that have received this reagent as a byproduct.

Mining seems to be the way to go for really farming 원시 영혼. With Multiple characters you could also use your Alts Mines to gather a supply to eventually buy 마술의 대지 and send it to your tailor. (probably a bigger hassle then it's worth)

Time needed to make the bag

Making a bag at Tailoring 700 would take 5 days.

Given 사술매듭 옷감 at tailoring 700 with 1 charge every day. And a lvl100 follower assigned to the tailoring emporium would guarantee 2 사술매듭 옷감 Per Work order. 1 work order takes 4 hours which is 6 work orders in a day.

This means 22 사술매듭 옷감 Per Day (10+12) with maxed Follower and Profession. Not maxed then 6-15 사술매듭 옷감 Per Day, which would require you like 7+ days to make a bag.

OreoLover의 댓글

2 extra slots, looks like 2 empty spots... Here we go again, OCD :(

1377078의 댓글

Can you create this without having tailoring? In your garrison.?

Pzypro의 댓글

I'd rather pay double for 32 slot bags than the current prices for 30 slot bags. Those extra 2 half there / half missing slots are really annoying (looks like I'm not the only one lol...). And I'm not terribly interested in bag addons to make one giant grid because I like having 5 "distinct" bags to sort my stuff out accordingly. >_>

I think I'll just stick to royal satchels until one of the following happens: 1) we get 32 slot bags 2) I desperately need 8 more lots 3) I figure out how to tolerate the missing UI slots

PPSF의 댓글

Everyone who hates the two missing slots should check out the addon Baud Bag. It's a small bag addon that'll allow you to arrange your bags as 5x6 or 6x5 to keep them square without changing much else.

http://www.curse.com/addons/wow/baud-bag

AgonyClanKios의 댓글

You can make Hexweave cloth with no cooldown because of Primal Weaving

You can buy this from Calvo Klyne. You need 3 Level Garrison to see him randomly.

stickshift의 댓글

With the next expansion (Legion) still one year away and the promise of a much better transmog service , people will be gathering any gear they think even has a remote chance of being xmog-worthy. These bags will probably go up in auction value as space becomes more precious and the gear piles up.

If you are a buyer, buy them now (on Windrunner they go for a mere 1.2k gold). If you are a seller, start stockpiling mats (or bags) and watch the Auction House around late-Winter/mid-Spring of 2016. As always, it all fluctuates based on the server and economy. I'm basing this prediction on the gear I'm collecting across (11) toons all of whom are totally loaded with Royal Satchels.

jjanchan의 댓글

***UPDATE: As per the latest information, Legion will not have a new Tailoring bag at launch (, previously a 32-slot bag, has been nixed)! It appears that (other than 미치광이의 짐), 사술매듭 가방 will be the largest bag available at launch.***

Legion will be bringing with it many new bags, including ~~at least two~~ only one new Tailoring bags - 비단매듭 가방, a presumably easy-to-craft 24-slot bag, ~~and , a premium 32-slot bag requiring quite a bit more to make~~.

NEW BAGS IN LEGION

These bags are not yet in-game, but have been datamined and should be coming with the expansion.
Information subject to change.

Bag	Slots	Source	Mats	Notes
미치광이의 짐	34	Vendor	N/A	Unique. BoE. Sold by the Mad Merchant for 500,000g.
토템 가방	30	Vendor	N/A	Unique. BoP. Available from the 높은산 부족 faction at Exalted reputation.
추악한 추적자 가죽 주머니	28	Unknown	N/A	Unique. BoP. Found in a Small Treasure Chest in 마르둠 - 산산조각난 심연
애디의 잉크로 얼룩진 가방	26	Quest Reward	N/A	BoP. Reward from the quest 배고픈 염소 주의! in 높은산.
비단매듭 가방	24	Tailoring	90 X 샬도레이 비단	BoE. Learned from 도안: 비단매듭 가방 (source as of yet unknown). Despite being only 24-slots, this is presumably an attempt to fill a gap in the Tailoring bag patterns (there has never been a crafted 24-slot bag prior to this).
학 가방	24	Vendor?	N/A	Unique. BoP. This appears to be a vendor bag.

CURRENTLY AVAILABLE BAGS (20+ SLOTS)

Bag	Slots	Source	Mats	Notes
사술매듭 가방	30	Tailoring	100 X 사술매듭 옷감 10 X 마술의 대지	BoE. Learned from 도안: 사술매듭 가방, purchaseable for 5 드레노어 재봉술의 비밀 in: Warspear/Stormshield Frostwall/Lunarfall Garrison
그론가죽 가방	28	Vendor	N/A	Unique. BoP. Sold by "말라깽이" 리니 레드포켓츠 (H)/솔직한 짐 (A) for 2,200g. If you've built a Smuggler's Den outpost in 탈라도르, you can call the rare goods vendor by using the 밀수꾼 등장! ability. The vendor summoned will rarely have this item for sale.
왕실 가방	28	Tailoring	12 X 황제의 비단	BoE. Learned from 도안: 왕실 가방, available from 위대한 천신회 Quartermaster after attaining Exalted reputation with that faction.
환영 가방	26	Tailoring	8 X 꿈결 옷감	BoE. Learned from 도안: 환영 가방, sold by Tailoring vendors in various major cities.
휴대용 구멍	24	Vendor	N/A	BoE. Sold by 해리스 필튼 in Shattrath City for 3,000g.
코르크론 보급품 가방	24	Drop	N/A	Unique. BoP. Rare drop (0.1-0.3% drop rate) from various Kor'kron mobs in 북부 불모의 땅.
누더기 사술옷감 가방	24	Quest Reward	N/A	BoP. Reward from 사술 군주의 우상, which is completed in the Level 85 Heroic dungeon 줄아만.
그루멀짐	24	Quest Reward	N/A	BoP. Reward from 짐을 구하라, which is part of a quest chain in 쿤라이 봉우리 that starts with 삼베길: 삼베 중계지를 향해.
빙하의 가방	22	Tailoring	4 X 달빛수의 옷감 4 X 흑단매듭 옷감 1 X 이터늄 실타래	BoE. Learned from Tailoring trainers in various major cities.
잿불비단 가방	22	Tailoring	15 X 잿불비단 두루마리 15 X 최면 가루	BoE. Learned from Tailoring trainers in various major cities.
심연의 가방	22	Tailoring	2 X 주문매듭 옷감 4 X 흑단매듭 옷감 1 X 이터늄 실타래	BoE. Learned from 도안: 심연의 가방, available from the 칠흑의 기사단 Quartermaster at Revered reputation. This used to be a bag for a Warlock's Soul Shards, before these were converted to a non-inventory resource.
거인의 가방	22	Vendor	N/A	BoE. Sold by 해리스 필튼 in Shattrath City for 1,200g. Equipping one will grant the achievement 명품은 아무나 하나?.
아저씨의 신상품 가방	22	Drop	N/A	Unique. BoP. Rare drop (4% drop rate) from Normal or Heroic 브론잠, first boss in the Level 80 dungeon 영혼의 제련소.
넓어진 오닉시아 가죽 배낭	22	Drop	N/A	Unique. BoP. 100% drop from 10 or 25-man 오닉시아, in 오닉시아의 둥지 (Level 80 raid).
용 가죽 가방	22	Drop	N/A	Unique. BoP. 100% drop from 10 or 25-man 살타리온, in 흑요석 성소 (Level 80 raid)].
서리매듭 가방	20	Tailoring	6 X 마력 깃든 서리매듭 두루마리 2 X 이터늄 실타래	BoE. Learned from Tailoring trainers in various major cities.
칠흑의 암흑 가방	20	Tailoring	2 X 주문매듭 옷감 4 X 흑단매듭 옷감 1 X 이터늄 실타래	BoE. Learned from 도안: 칠흑의 암흑 가방, available from 안드리온 다크스피너 (Shattrath) or 리나 브루더 (Dalaran). This used to be a bag for a Warlock's Soul Shards, before these were converted to a non-inventory resource.
태초의 달빛매듭 가방	20	Tailoring	8 X 태초의 달빛 옷감 4 X 황천그물 거미줄	BoE. Learned from 도안: 태초의 달빛매듭 가방, available from 나스마라 문송 (Shattrath) and 에인데루 서머리프 (Dalaran), or as a rare drop (drop rate 0.04%) from 실체 없는 구원자s in 황천의 폭풍. Obviously the vendors are MUCH easier to access!
천 개의 깃털 화살통	20	Leatherworking	8 X 질긴 톱니매듭 가죽 99 X 가벼운 깃털 2 X 바람의 근원 1 X 황천의 근원	BoE. This rare gem is a throwback to when Hunters had to carry arrows/ammo in specialized quivers/ammo bags! It was converted to a standard bag when arrows/ammo as inventory items were removed. The pattern for this is no longer in-game, but any Leatherworker who already learned it can still craft these.
지옥의 군주 가방	20	Drop	N/A	Unique. BoP. 100% drop from 마그테리돈, in 마그테리돈의 둥지 (Level 70 raid).
오우거 수영모	20	Treasure	N/A	BoP. Looted from 물이 새지 않는 가방, a treasure in (Warlords of Draenor) 나그란드.
아저씨의 새 가방	20	Drop	N/A	Unique. BoP. Uncommon drop (23% drop rate) from Normal or Heroic 브론잠, first boss in the Level 80 dungeon 영혼의 제련소.
햇살 깃든 가방	20	Drop	N/A	Unique. BoP. Rare drop (~0.5% drop rate) from trash in 마법학자의 정원 (Level 70 dungeon).

LEGACY BAGS

The following 20+ slot bags are rare indeed...they are no longer obtainable in-game, but if you had one from before, you would retain it.

Prior to patch 4.0.1, Hunters had to keep a stock of ammo/arrows in a specialized quiver or ammo pouch in order to use their bows, crossbows or guns. With 4.0.1, the following changes were implemented:

Hunters no longer were required to carry ammo/arrows, and had unlimited ammo from that point
All recipes for quivers were removed from vendors
All pre-existing ammo/arrows were converted to grey vendor trash
All quivers and ammo bags were converted to regular bags of varying sizes
In many cases, the patterns to craft these specialized bags were REMOVED from a character's profession recipe list, even if they learned the patterns prior to 4.0.1.

The only exception to this seems to be 천 개의 깃털 화살통 - it is still craftable, although the recipe to learn it has been removed.

Below is a list of 20+ slot bags available until now:

Bag	Slots	Source	Mats	Notes
힘줄 감긴 고대의 잎주머니	24	Quest Reward	N/A	BoP. This quiver was used back when Hunters had to carry arrows/ammo in specialized bags in order to use their ranged weapons. It was obtained from an epic questline that started from 단단한 고대의 잎사귀, which dropped in 화산 심장부 after defeating 청지기 이그젝큐투스. Via this quest line, Hunters had to loot a dragon sinew from the old version of the world boss 아주어고스 and turn it in to get the quiver. With the advent of patch 4.0.1, all quivers were converted to bags. Patch 4.0.3a brought the removal of the 단단한 고대의 잎사귀, thus making this bag no longer obtainable. Those who already had the bag from the questline retained it.
네루비안 강화 화살통	20	Leatherworking	2 X 두꺼운 북풍 가죽 20 X 네루비안 껍질 (No longer craftable!)	BoE. This quiver was used back when Hunters had to carry arrows/ammo in specialized bags in order to use their ranged weapons. With the advent of patch 4.0.1, the recipe for these was removed from vendors, AND the crafting spell was removed from the Leatherworkers that previously could craft it! Those who had the bag (already crafted) retained it.
용비늘 탄약주머니	20	Leatherworking	2 X 두꺼운 북풍 가죽 20 X 네루비안 껍질 (No longer craftable!)	BoE. This ammo pouch was used back when Hunters had to carry arrows/ammo in specialized bags in order to use their ranged weapons. With the advent of patch 4.0.1, the recipe for these was removed from vendors, AND the crafting spell was removed from the Leatherworkers that previously could craft it! Those who had the bag (already crafted) retained it.
황천비늘 탄약주머니	20	Leatherworking	12 X 질긴 톱니매듭 가죽 12 X 황천의 용비늘 4 X 대지의 근원 1 X 황천의 근원 (No longer craftable!)	BoE. This ammo pouch was used back when Hunters had to carry arrows/ammo in specialized bags in order to use their ranged weapons. With the advent of patch 4.0.1, the recipe for these was removed from vendors, AND the crafting spell was removed from the Leatherworkers that previously could craft it! Those who had the bag (already crafted) retained it.

pat33의 댓글

Simple explanation

135 cloths to make 1 bag

So if you can craft it's alot cheaper even if you buy cloths/2 gold.

Avg minimum AH prices for bags: Min:800 gold max: 2400 gold

Calculations:
-With a lvl 3 tailoring emporium + a lvl 675 follower
-You will get out off 26 WO(4days)= 99 hexweave cloth(HW) = 3.8 HW/WO (5clothx26WO= 130 cloth)
lets make it (5clothx27WO= 135 cloth)

Rudy199의 댓글

Somebody still using their tailoring building in WoD garrison to make these bags like myself in Legion? :D

xRodge의 댓글

We're well into Legion at this stage and, as a tailor, this bag keeps me going back to my WoD garrison on a daily basis.
With 호화로운 모피 selling for 5 gold each (I thankfully stocked up around 10,000 of these pre-Legion at 1 gold or less each) and all the other ingredients being available daily in Garrisons for free (do need to use my alchemist to transmute to get 마술의 대지) - it means there is still a nice profit to be made with these bags.

Depending on supply, these go for 1400-2800 gold on my server (EU-Kor'Gall)

With the new 34 slot bag being so insanely expensive and unique, I don't see the market for 사술매듭 가방 going away anytime soon!
The existence of 미치광이의 짐 says to me that there is no larger craftable bag planned for a considerable time to come.

Tunaria의 댓글

"Great news, everyone! We're adding a new bag for 7.1!"

"...What do you mean it's a pointless addition?"

farble1670의 댓글

Nice bag, but 100 Hexweave Cloth = 2000 Sumptuous fur. Nuts.

wisedada의 댓글

In BfA another, hopefully better to craft, 30 slot bag will be added, 심해 가방.

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