frmorrison의 댓글

I am not sure what is item is designed for. The low dps removes melee classes. Elemental Shaman don't have mana issues with the new clearcasting and having a shield is nice.

I guess a Balance Druid would get decent use out of it, since they don't have many regen options as a Shaman has.

Zachs의 댓글

This weapon really does make no sense.

Balance Druids actually have several more compelling options with way more spell damage on them, one and two-handed alike. Elemental Shamans would want a shield and dagger/mace. Retribution Paladins would not be caught dead with one of these because of the extremely low DPS. Holy Paladins would not even want it because they deal more damage with a high DPS, slow 2H, or a low DPS, high spell damage 1H and shield.

The only thing that makes any sense is the fact the item this pattern can create has been in the database for some time now without any means to craft it. Since we don't have any confirmed drop location yet for this, it's possible this pattern itself is not yet ready for prime time either, or even if it was, was placed in haste to add a pattern drop to Zul'Aman. Hopefully, Blizzard will retool the item in some way.

Beliar의 댓글

This weapon made me happy because I was thinking of how I'd love to have something like this for SoR ret yet this closest equivalent was merciless gladiator's painsaw

durenas의 댓글

It's a ret SoR weapon?

Hegalla의 댓글

Good for pre-raid people

Oriden의 댓글

Only thing I can think of this being used for is dpsing with protection spec paladin, or maybe a really really hybrid paladin grinding weapon...

blademeld의 댓글

this is actually pretty nice for a shockadin. it basically turns a blue 1h and shield combo into a 2 hander

shield = ~25 spell damage
shield = ~15 stam
shield = ~15 int
sword = ~125 spell damage
sword = ~40 DPS (white)
sword = ~20 stam
sword = ~20 int

total = ~150 spelldamage
total = ~40 DPS
total = ~35 stam
total = ~35 int

this = 168 spell damage
this = 66.6 white DPS
this = 55 stam
this = 37 int

so you get roughly the same amount of stats

and the armor in the shield is changed into white damage

if you have the money to spare, go ahead, if not, you still have your sword and shield :P

InfinityX의 댓글

I definitely like this item. As it begins discussions like this because of its unorthodox stats.

Please continue discussing the ways this could be put to good use. I personally instantly identified it as a protection paladin single target grinding tool, as reckoning would make full use of the fast speed on this weapon and could probably pump out some very respectable damage if you actually dropped the mats to make it.

Carighan의 댓글

Most people aren't taking into account the speed on this.
For a Holy Paladin grinding (yes, even we have to grind at times ^_^), this mace is a godsend. At 2,1s speed with high spelldamage, it offers perfect synergy with the high spelldamage one can obtain from gear in 2.3 as Holy, and should work perfectly.

Deggies의 댓글

Hmmm, has anyone noticed it's DPS? :P

52521의 댓글

This weapon's lack of specialization makes it unlikely to see much use. It compromises on too many stats when you could use simple macros to change your weapons mid-combat to meet the situation rather than to blindly equip this.

Possible specs that would actually use this:
Retribution paladin using SoR
Balance druid PvP

I have to wonder if these stats resemble the itemization budget a Death Knight might use in the future.

Herio의 댓글

This is really good for prot paladin 2h tanking...
When I'm going oom in an encounter I outgear I usually throw on a two hander (without the sword and board, I'm still uncrittable at exactly 490 def) so that I can retain a enough mana to generate agro... thing is my two hander doesn't have any spell damage on it... so this solves everything.

bmyton의 댓글

Let's move all this chatter about the Item to the proper page:

http://www.wowhead.com/?item=32854

This page should focus more on the important stuff, like "You can get this recipe _______"

63223의 댓글

Does anyone know if this pattern is actually in existance, i've never seen this item equipped or the spammed for someone to craft. Same for the pattern itself.

21969의 댓글

This plan was added to the game in 2.1 but it was "activated" first in 2.3. The plan is a world drop and you should see it on your local AH soon.

Why do everyone talk about paladins? When I take a look at the dps, stats and speed I starts thinking on a balance druid and this is a really nice 2h for a druid who can't run Karazhan.

80451의 댓글

Got the plans today from a Black Morass run. Dropped off one of the Portal Keepers. *Note* Not an actual boss.

First time seeing it.

From the odd stats, I can't see much demand for this item. I am a BS and could craft it for another. But I can't imagine there is alot of people who would want to use it. And don't flame me because I don't know how Pally DPS works or whatever. I'm merely stating the obvious when I say... your average Pally isn't going to see the benefit of this over sword / board. Where as a Druid will also try to attain a 1h and OH.

None the Less.

Gurubashi, Daxg. Let me know if you want it crafted.

48523의 댓글

yes it exists...looted it this morning :D seeing as I was sitting on 6g at the time, made me extra happy lol

9697의 댓글

It's just a stat-stick. Think of it as a staff, but it's a mace instead.

jerseysteve의 댓글

We got this out of a scroll case purchased from a vendor in ZA last night. Both the hammersmith and the elemental shaman in the group were pleasantly surprised.

DJTyrant의 댓글

I got this drop tonight when I was doing my dailies in BEM.

116487의 댓글

Dropped in our Normal Mech run off of trash this weekend.

65062의 댓글

Just dropped off trash in Heroic Slave Pens. The greedy naga had this AND a living ruby in his pockets.

However I can't really see a huge use for this. I spose a Holy Shockadin could use it.. until they got one of the many caster weapons with more than 168dmg.

bigworm2의 댓글

Dropped from an enraged air elemental for me tonight in SMV near Ancient Shadowmoon Spirit. Very nice surprise, especially since an epic (lvl 50plate shoulders) dropped for the same toon in Azshara last night!!! Frost Mages FTW!!

Spalding의 댓글

I just had this drop for me while doing the daily SSO quests. It dropped from a Wretched Fiend on the Isle of Quel'Danas.

Happy Hunting

176487의 댓글

Dopped off a Mana Feeder in Karazhan.

136358의 댓글

I actually got it from the first few mobs of mech...very lucky i guess

194903의 댓글

dropped off a clefthoof bull still trying to find a price to sell it for

195844의 댓글

Just dropped on an AC heroic run, always a nice bonus when you see something like this unexpectedly

Terrassen의 댓글

Just got it from a Nethermine Flayer against all odds!

475949의 댓글

Just picked this up today for 57g. First time I have seen it in a cpl years.

1028488의 댓글

Just got it off of an avian ripper in Sethekk Halls.

Zephinism의 댓글

Dropped off a Bloodspire Ogre outside Gruul's Lair.

magicknightrhi의 댓글

dropped off a Lordaeron Watchman in Old Hillsbrad heroic today :)

1540691의 댓글

Well im not sure where did i dropped these plans, but when i found them in my inventory i was like "sweet some another useless epic plan i got, but atlast i can learn it..."

Somehow i've forgot about plans and when i found them on my AH char than i was already 2 lazy to resend soo, they were goin on AH... First i didnt wanna believe price that was one addon showin for them(somethin around 12k), but than i said whatever and i've auction them for 12k...

Believe or not they SOLD straight away for 12k on AH...

Next time definitely check out wowhead first when u encounter any epic boe plans for sure ^^

Not sayin that 12k is bad or so, but it could be more :p or i could learn plans and than sell crafted boe epics...

Last note: Btw every reset im farmin all of the tbc raids soo it probably dropped in of them... Hopefully ill see them again oneday :)

Emcredible의 댓글

Just got these from the mobs around Nethermancer Seperthrea in Mechanar normal, could have been from the boss as well as pulled the whole room to her, keep the pattern if you can use it as the mace is a unique appearence and with holy paladins going back to a 2H they maybe inclined to complete that TBC feel with this skin

Nashoto의 댓글

to those who don't want to farm this recipe on HYJAL US but can get mats (or wish to barter for mats) because they just want one...

Hordeside I can craft free your mats: Silverren from Seas of shifting Sands.

:D I know some of these are hard to get or never on AH.

Peshoturboto의 댓글

The plans dropped for me from Mana Tombs yesterday. It says that the drop chance from MT is currently 0%, wow!

paktu의 댓글

The following Blacksmithing weapons are said to have recipes in Coilskar Chest . The drop rate for these items are frustratingly small. So small it might not be worth the time for farm here. Instead, allow me to suggest BC Raids and Heroic Dungeons. It also seems to have an increased drop rate from rare elites in the BC areas. But, it is important to note that ALL BC mobs can potentially drop these plans.

Dirge is taught by Dirge Plans

Eternium Runed Blade is taught by Eternium Runed Blade Plans

Fel Edged Battleaxe is taught by Fel Edged Battleaxe Plans

Fel Hardened Maul is taught by Fel Hardened Maul Plans

Felsteel Longblade is taught by Felsteel Longblade Plans

Felsteel Reaper is taught by Felsteel Reaper Plans

Hammer of Righteous Might is taught by Hammer of Righteous Might Plans

Hand of Eternity is taught by Hand of Eternity Plans

Khorium Champion is taught by Khorium Champion Plans

Runic Hammer is taught by Runic Hammer Plans

Additionally, here is a list of other weapons and their recipes that are also seemingly random world drops from BC enemies.

Sageblade is taught by Sageblade Plans - While the in game Blacksmithing screen shows Outland as the location for creatures dropping the item, it should be noted that this item only has recorded drops from mobs and bosses from Molten Core, Temple of Ahn'Qiraj, and the final boss of Blackwing Lair.

Persuader is taught by Persuader Plans - While the in game Blacksmithing screen shows Outland as the location for creatures dropping the item, it should be noted that this item only has recorded drops from Eternium Lockbox and mobs and bosses from Molten Core, Temple of Ahn'Qiraj, and the of Blackwing Lair.

nirvanarsc의 댓글

Dropped tonight from trash mobs in The Battle for Mount Hyjal

soup123의 댓글

This just dropped for me off trash in escape from durnhold instance.

Elandle의 댓글

Dropped off trash from Mana Tombs Heroic while farming Consortium rep.

SamsinOzo의 댓글

Saw this drop in Hellfire Ramparts.

Empikk의 댓글

It dropped me just now from trash in the Sunwell raid. The char has Outland BS skill, but not maxed (71/75) if anyone would look for this info.

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