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1.	포세이큰의 타락
2.	발키르의 침략
3.	아라드네
4.	아, 안돌할이여

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서부 역병지대 호드보다는 스컬지를 전쟁 기계 끝없는 흐름 스칼로맨스의 지도자 강대한 들창엄니 소환사 아라즈 짧은 승리감 깃털 수집 극심한 굶주림 우서 경의 축복 버려진 납골당 매복이다! 고통의 흉가 이것이 우리 군대다 전투 훈련 전투 재개! 아군 지원 재에서 재로 포세이큰의 타락 발키르의 침략 동족상잔의 비극 아라드네 아, 안돌할이여 요령 익히기 이제는 전쟁이야! 대영주와의 만남 역병지대의 새로운 시대 가론의 흉가 역병 가마솥 치유사의 처소로 귀환 무모한 행위 테올렌 크라스티노브의 수련생들 드루이드 젠키키 색다른 접근방법 젠키키와 이교도들 탤런 폴드링의 유물 놀들의 비정상적인 행동 하스글렌의 선량한 주민들 학자 비스프 처치 자수

스크린샷

동영상

186733의 댓글

Completing this quest phases out the flight path for alliance. Its not really vital but if you want it don't hand it in.

Daco의 댓글

Kind of a downer of an ending, but at least you get a nice reward for your futility.

I do like this though. Nothing like seeing ground you've been fighting for permanently lost to the Horde to point up how much the world has changed in 4.0. Haven't had anything like this in game before.

Mightylink의 댓글

Wow this quest was bullcrap, after everything I went through the horde just take it and thassaran dissapears, no epic battle with his brother or anything.

Carnane의 댓글

The quest title is a reference to the original quest to kill Araj, pre-Cataclysm.

On a side note, I was surprised by the effectiveness of Blizzard's storytelling with this zone. It was short, to be honest, but it REALLY showed how evil the Forsaken are becoming.

Aletto의 댓글

I don't know if this changes after level 40, but after leveling both an Alliance and Horde character after the Shattering, the Alliance is getting absolutely destroyed.

The only place they've made any headway is Southern Barrens, it seems.

I think Vanilla WoW handled conflict rather well - both factions fought, but the endings to the battles were inconclusive. If you were Alliance, the quests made it seem like Alliance won. If you were Horde, the quests made it seem like the Horde won.

But in Cata they seem to have taken out all uncertainty. Now, when there's a battle between the Alliance and Horde, there are two possible outcomes - a draw, or the Horde wins. :(

754424의 댓글

Was kind of dissapointed when this questline ended as a loss for the Alliance. I really hoped to reclaim Andorhal. However ( Thassarian says: My battle's not over yet. I've got an appointment with that harpy that calls herself a Banshee Queen... and I'm finding out what she did to Koltira.) Turns out that the Forsaken are really playing a dirty game (especially now withThrall gone and a new, inexperienced warchief in his place) and becoming a serious threat. WTB some spanking @ Sylvanass when Thrall returns (Hope he does ;p)

754947의 댓글

Considering the hordes new warchief is substantionally more bloodthirsty than Thrall ever was, I think that is the reason. The forsaken are also stirring up something of their own... I wonder.

Neat questline, though a bit short, would've loved to see what Thassarian would do when he finds out what happened to Koltira. I guess I'll keep searching for the quest then :)

Avish의 댓글

You know it's bad when my Horde for Life ass is rooting for Thassarian. I would much rather have lost the town than have what happened to Koltira, happen to Koltira. I even knew the outcome before starting on the quest, but it was so much worse watching the cut scene. I've always preferred the Kalimdor Horde, but now I'm getting to where I hate The Forsaken. I swear, if the Alliance on my server attacks UC, I am going to zip over as fast as I can...so I can stand there and cheer them on.

611727의 댓글

Somewhat dissappointing that we lost Andorhal after all that :(

Seems like almost every quest Alliance vs. Horde, Horde win out in the end. Every. Time.

Felidire의 댓글

Koltira deserved the torture, had he joined the Alliance instead of the Horde (like he was considering) then he wouldn't be obligated to fight/kill his best friend, and he certainly wouldn't have had the "sympathy" tortured out of him. Psh, you hordies... So heartless.... =P

That's what happens when you side with jerks, it really is his own fault.. and to all the horde players who felt bad for him, your faction isn't driven by "sympathy," it's a merciless and brutal faction with the forsaken driven by vengeance, and the orcs bound by honor (although the 'honorable' orc numbers seem to be diminishing..)

I have more 85 horde chars than I do alliance, but I just never feel comfortable horde-side. If they pissed of of the forsaken and their orcish-warmongering then it wouldn't be so bad..

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Oh yeah the quest, it was areally good quest chain for both sides.. Hope their is a follow up to it soon.

4dehorde의 댓글

"When I dug my way out of the grave, I thought my family would welcome me back. Sure, I was undead now, but my family loved me when I was alive, and I still loved them. I was so certain our bond was still alive, even if I wasn’t anymore. Instead, they chased me out of the village, screaming and throwing rocks and bricks at me. I guess all they see now is a monster. I still love them though."

This was from the journal of a Forsaken citizen who now lives in Brill. Everyone, even hardcore Alliance players, have to accept the Forsaken are not evil, souless undead like the Scourge. Imagine, being a human with a happy life, then suddenly you are murdered, risen as an undead slave, forced to serve in an army, and then have your free will restored only to discover your old friends and family now hate and hunt you simply for being undead. That is the story of most if not all Forsaken.

Lady Sylvanas is a tragic hero. In life she was a patriot, a proud defender of her homeland. Then, she was killed by merciless invaders, brought back as a banshee cursed to serve her killer, then was freed and possessed her corpse, which had been horribly mutilated. Even after all this, she shows that she has compassion and love for her people, new and old. The elves of Quel'Thalas, and the Forsaken. She shares a special tragic bond with her people. They can all relate, as they all have suffered horribly and still do. She leads her people with pride and love, and doesn't hesitate to face down those who threaten them.

Fojar38의 댓글

You misquoted that.

The person in question is Dan Golthas, and he currently resides in Undercity. Here's the actual quote:

"When I clawed my way out of the grave, I thought my family would welcome me with open arms. Instead, they drove me out of the village, screaming in a language I could no longer understand."

He never makes any reference to still loving them. You, for lack of a better word, made that part up.

This isn't to say that his scenario isn't tragic, but quite frankly, it's strange that he expected a different reaction. If you just went through a zombie apocalypse, and you saw a zombie, your first reaction wouldn't be "I'm gonna give him a hug!" Your first reaction would be "It's coming to eat my brains. Kill it!"

Incidentally, he's the only recorded case of any Forsaken being "rejected" by the living. Looking at the lore as supplied in both Warcraft 3 and World of Warcraft, we can see that it's the Forsaken who struck the first blow in the conflict between the Forsaken and the Alliance. The Forsaken and the Alliance worked together to retake Capital City from the Scourge, on Sylvanas' word that the Capital would be returned to the Alliance after it was retaken. Instead, she went back on her word and killed the Alliance forces who had just worked with her, thereby ruining any chance that the two factions would've had for co-operation.

In addition, it isn't the Alliance who consider the Forsaken evil. Blizzard themselves have come out and said numerous times that the Forsaken are evil. In the Horde Players Guide, the Forsaken are referenced as "usually evil" which indicated, via the alignment system used by the game, that approximately 80% of the Forsaken are evil. In addition, on the original description of the Undercity on the World of Warcraft official website, Blizzard refers to the Undercity as "a sprawling bastion of evil."

Even as recent as the Cataclysm trailer they've been doing this. "As the vile Forsaken march south into Gilneas, and ancient ally resurfaces to bring the savage Worgen into the Alliance."

Are there good Forsaken? Yes, and for the sake of these good Forsaken's future it would behoove them to seek refuges with either the Argent Crusade or the Alliance (which has sheltered undead who sought to leave the Forsaken since Vanilla WoW.)

The actions of the Forsaken, that is, the establishment of death camps, campaign to eradicate humanity (a goal explicitly stated by Sylvanas in Arthas: Rise of the Lich King) as well as rampant unprovoked international aggression point to them being the less than heroic sort. And I say, why deny that? That's what makes the Forsaken fun and awesome to play. They aren't supposed to be tragic hero's; they're supposed to be a badass army of the living dead that you don't want to mess with.

4dehorde의 댓글

That is another quote entirely. You can't possibly claim I made it up without proof. Golthas is in Undercity, this paticular Forsaken is in Brill. I know the Forsaken are evil, but I believe they were driven that way by the Alliance. When the Alliance attacked first and embarked on their campaign to genocide the Forsaken, they earned their hatred. There is a comic series that shows the Alliance clearly attacked first. Sylvanas "betrayed" Garithos after that.

The Forsaken have yet to make one death camp. The Sludge Fields was just a prison camp with an insane warden, as quests reveal. For crying out loud, he experimented on his own guards.The Alliance never sheltered any Forsaken, they sheltered Forsaken traitors, likely intending to use them against their former brethren in my view.

In short, yes the Forsaken are evil, but not just for no reason as many in the Alliance believe. The Forsaken is a race of tragic, cursed beings forced to exist in a world that hates and fears them. They were driven to this current war in Lordaeron and driven to hate humans, with the genocidal actions of the Scarlet Crusade and the Alliance.

Tanman28의 댓글

Sylvanas is NOT like the Lich King. The Lich King raised the dead to be mindless servants that had no will and forced to serve him. Sylvanas, as seen in one of the first quests when you make an undead character, raises them to give them another chance at life. They have the choice to join the forsaken or leave, as Marshal Redpath and some other people do.

Aniko79의 댓글

*spoiler* After doing the quest chain in silver pine forest, you learn that the forsaken numbers are dwindling and given that they cannot reproduce, Sylvanas is forced to increase her forces the only way she knows how. I admit that her methods are a bit aggressive and what she did to koltira was more then out of line. However just as 4dehorde pointed out, everything she does, she does for her people and their survival. Besides...she's the banshee queen...what in the world would make you think that her methods were going to be nice & tidy? ;)

Crafter77의 댓글

***Spoilers***
To those who wanted to see the Horde side and what happened to Koltira...

The Reckoning...

4dehorde의 댓글

Delphince의 댓글

No, you made it up. Thanks to the wonders of datamining and the interwebs, it can be confidently stated that your quote does not exist in any journal or other piece of flavor fluff in the game. Added to the fact that you reposted your comment across several quests and even YouTube pages, you're simply looking to create a bit of sympathy for an increasingly despised race.

4dehorde의 댓글

Either you are lying or are mistaken. It is from an in-game journal, found in the Undercity. I have not posted my comments from here on Youtube, but I have on other pages on this site where they are relevant. What does that have to do with anything? Here is what I am getting from you, you are heavily biased and refuse to see what you think is evil in a different light. Nothing is as black and white as you think.

tharnis의 댓글

Out of curiosity I've been reading the in-game books you can find in Brill and Undercity (the two places you mention), but I've been unable to find any diary (or anything like that), honestly. Nothing pops up even if you look in the wowhead list for database -> objects -> books and add location filters for Tirisfal Glades and/or Undercity.

I'm willing to admit I might be mistaken, if I see some proof. A wowhead link to the diary object? A screenshot showing the location of the book?

4dehorde의 댓글

That is pure speculation. And I can think of a pretty good motive for Redpath wanting to attack the Forsaken, he was an Alliance army officer in Southshore prior to its pacification after the Shattering. Its not too far of a stretch to say that is a motive for attacking.

As for Darnell's comment about they should have killed them all when they were risen, its likely he was simply lamenting on the situation. It would have saved the Forsaken time, resources, and lives if they had seen the problem with the Rotbrains beforehand and stopped them then.

If the Forsaken really did want all dissenters dead, how do we explain the undead in the Argent Dawn and Argent Crusade? I've even seen them working for the Venture Co. Perhaps the most notable is Lillian Voss. While Forsaken players have several quests involving her, she never really joins the Forsaken (at least not yet) and they don't send anyone or anything after her.

4dehorde의 댓글

Monday의 댓글

You'll never get one. 4dehorde has a history of blatantly fabricating or severely misinterpreting lore while outright ignoring parts that may prove him wrong.

4dehorde의 댓글

Nope, but that pretty much describes you Funden.

4dehorde의 댓글

Monday의 댓글

Oh really? Despite the fact that you ignore anything you can't outright dismiss, and, when having said material brought to your attention repeatedly, continue to ignore it and/or apply ad hominem? I'm fairly sure that doesn't describe me. It is, however, a perfectly accurate assessment of your debate activities.

Also, I can guarantee that the rest of the L&RP board will back me up. Of course, that just means that you'll call us all morons and the like, but then again, we all know that they say that those who are insane don't view themselves as insane. Oh no, everyone else is insane, not you.

4dehorde의 댓글

I don't know who you think you are describing, but it sure is not me. I don't ignore anything, period. When in a discussion I always face the issue head on and give my answers. If you don't like my answers, tough. I am allowed to have my own thoughts, whether you admit it or not. I have had plenty of discussions with civilized people who don't make up nonsense and throw insults at people who don't think just like them, but sadly you are not one of them.

4dehorde의 댓글

What they feel is irrelevant, the are dissenters and the Forsaken are not out to get them, proof enough that those who simply choose not to join the Forsaken are not subjected to prejudice from them.

Monday의 댓글

How about the Warchief thread? I posted an argument, and you consistently avoided it for several posts until I started quoting it at you, saying that I still wanted an answer. You then proceeded to tell me I was completely wrong without actually refuting any of my arguments, called us all children, then left.

It was rather amusing, actually. I love how when I responded to your counterargument, you then proceeded to call us all offtopic and claim that we need to go back to the original topic, while calling us all immature children. Cute.

Also, do I need to bring up the Taurajo thread? The one where you said you'd never seen an Alliance supporter condemn the Taurajo attack, despite several people on that page and before that saying that it was uncalled for? Yeah, your track record isn't exactly the best around here.

E: Look, I'm getting hostile here, and I apologize. I believe what I said, but I don't hate you, or really even dislike you. I just think you can get too zealous about defending the Horde, and you always think you're right. I often fall prey to the last one myself.

So, again, sorry for acting like somewhat of a ^&*!. Just keep my words in mind, 'kay?

Adamsm의 댓글

Not that irrelevant, as they show that not everyone agrees with Sylvanas....of course, those were the ones who escaped before Sylvanas started using the Val'kyr's; who knows if they can get away now.

4dehorde의 댓글

What they feel is irrelevant, the are dissenters and the Forsaken are not out to get them, proof enough that those who simply choose not to join the Forsaken are not subjected to prejudice from them.

4dehorde의 댓글

What they feel is irrelevant, the are dissenters and the Forsaken are not out to get them, proof enough that those who simply choose not to join the Forsaken are not subjected to prejudice from them.

4dehorde의 댓글

What they feel is irrelevant, the are dissenters and the Forsaken are not out to get them, proof enough that those who simply choose not to join the Forsaken are not subjected to prejudice from them.

4dehorde의 댓글

What they feel is irrelevant, they are dissenters and the Forsaken are not out to get them, proof enough that those who simply choose not to join the Forsaken are not subjected to prejudice from them.

4dehorde의 댓글

Your off in your description about what happened on the Warchief thread. You posted an argument and I quickly addressed it. I told you you were wrong, my honest opinion, while refuting your arguments at the same time with my own. The entire discussion was at that point off-topic and when you all refused to address that or my arguments, as you claim I did to you, I called you out for it.

Since you brought up the Taurajo thread I will remind you that absolutely nobody on the Alliance side condemned the attack as you claim. They hinted a possible belief of "excessive force" but not outrightly condemn the slaughter. They are so quick to call the Horde monsters for Southshore and overlook the matter when their side does that themselves.

I'm all in favor of a polite, civil discussion. I don't despise Alliance supporters, I'm just annoyed at some of them being so damn hypocritical.

4dehorde의 댓글

Who says they "escaped" as you say? I doubt policy would change simply because of the Val'kyr. Those like Lilian Voss and those who unfortunately became the Rotbrains and got themselves killed did not have to "escape" after being risen, they were allowed to leave.

4dehorde의 댓글

Adamsm의 댓글

Quite a few of older flavor text makes it quite clear those who went neutral did so because they did not agree with Sylvanas and actually had to escape in the night/come back without anyone realizing they were there as they would have been killed if they were caught.

4dehorde의 댓글

Those in the Argent Crusade may have left because they did not like Sylvanas, but if you even bothered to do the new Forsaken starter quests, you would see the majority of those who "leave" never joined in the first place. And there really is no source that says they "escaped", period. In Bartholomew's backstory it is made quite clear he was allowed to depart. Their reasons are irrelevant, my point is those who leave the Forsaken are not persecuted because of it. You don't see Deathstalkers shadowing Argent undead or Lilian Voss, do you?

4dehorde의 댓글

Adamsm의 댓글

No, but the old story about the Forsaken who broke into the Undercity to free a prisoner there, who used a human to do so, stated he would be killed if found as he was against what the Forsaken of Sylvanas believed in.

4dehorde의 댓글

Doubt it. Koltira never really gained any standing with the blood elves and as we saw in the manga Death Knight and numerous times in-game, death knights are kept at arms length. Add to that Koltira never became a blood elf and is in fact a high elf death knight, and we all know how well those two races get along. Most of us saw the Sunreavers and the Silver Covenant at the Argent Tournament.

4dehorde의 댓글

Just because he's a "representation" that doesn't make it so. He's a high elf, not a blood elf, and thats all there is to it. If he were tried under blood elf law it would still be him not being tried by his own race. On the other hand, given that he pledged loyalty to Sylvanas and was named as one of "her majesty's top death knights", I fail to see how being punished by the Forsaken is a crime.

4dehorde의 댓글

Adamsm의 댓글

Except of course the Lore saying the exact opposite right?

4dehorde의 댓글

I've done my research. The lore does not say the "exact opposite", period.

4dehorde의 댓글

I've done my research. The lore does not say the "exact opposite", period.

4dehorde의 댓글

Again, what is your source?

4dehorde의 댓글

Having a Forsaken main, I felt some pretty good satisfaction seeing her fall.

Adamsm의 댓글

I sorta of doubt that, as I've yet to see you prove anything you say here or anywhere.

4dehorde의 댓글

Then you clearly have not been paying attention.

Adamsm의 댓글

Dude, you've yet to prove anything you say as anything other then pure bias crap.

Adamsm의 댓글

Again, what is your source?

Was originally in the RPG books.

4dehorde의 댓글

Like I said, your not paying attention, unless of course you were just going for a self-description.

4dehorde의 댓글

Your word means nothing. Your going to need something solid.

4dehorde의 댓글

The Alliance is the good side? So I guess trying to purge an entire civilization and steal their land is a holy and just cause? How aboout that business on the Lost Isles, trying to kidnap the World Shaman on his way to mend the damage from the Shattering? Was that a righteous cause? How about butchering entire tribes of natives just to dig on their sacred, ancestral lands without permission or bother for it? Is that a hero's work? How about your precious king? He's out to destroy and genocide entire races but that doesn't matter he's just an angel, right? And now, Taurajo. A small hunter's camp with little to nothing in the way of military forces filled with civilians, women and children, all but completely put to the sword. Oh yes, Light bless the heroes who butchered those children.

Still think the Alliance is completely holy and the Horde is demon spawn? Still see everything in black and white?

Adamsm의 댓글

Your word means nothing. Your going to need something solid.

Lol, go look it up; it's in the RPG books.

Adamsm의 댓글

I've never seen you post anything that was remotely true; you make things up(As seen on the previous page here), you twist what you post around to fit your own little views, but very little of it is actually backed up by anything.

4dehorde의 댓글

Actually the truth is the one who has yet to post anything true and makes things up is you. It is you who twists the truth and then throws a fit the second someone expresses a different opinion. Real mature.

Adamsm의 댓글

Nope, that's your department, not mine.

Edit: Aw, does the truth hurt?

4dehorde의 댓글

I've read the books, nothing. Since you refuse to source your claim I have to call you a liar.

Adamsm의 댓글

I've read the books, nothing. Since you refuse to source your claim I have to call you a liar.

If you've read the Horde's Player's Guide, then you should have seen it.

4dehorde의 댓글

You tell me. Your the one always running away from it like it burns.

4dehorde의 댓글

I did, its not in there. Now, how about you stop lying and fess up?

4dehorde의 댓글

Whack-A-Pygmy anyone?

Adamsm의 댓글

I did, its not in there. Now, how about you stop lying and fess up?

Because I'm not lying and I really doubt you have.

Adamsm의 댓글

Oh very mature.

4dehorde의 댓글

Keep telling yourself that, its worked real well for you thus far.

4dehorde의 댓글

Its common knowledge that you lie and accuse others of doing it to try and avoid negative attention. That doesn't sound mature at all, kid.

Adamsm의 댓글

Keep telling yourself that, its worked real well for you thus far.

Uh huh, and you keep telling yourself that the Alliance is the next coming of Nazi Germany.

Adamsm의 댓글

Says the person who throws hissy fits and deletes his comments when they get down rated.

4dehorde의 댓글

I've never said that, but that pretty much sums up your opinion of the Horde. The very second someone gets the nerve to refute your bias, you attack them. You can't stand to see anyone's opinion that is different than your own, and its very childish.

Adamsm의 댓글

Actually, except for the Forsaken, I respect the Horde, but hey, thanks for projecting your own thoughts on other people! *thumbs up* And before you go off again, should check my posting history, as I stay on the neutral side of most things, except for the Undead.

Edit: Oh you have, you've said it many times...in fact, here, here, here and here you make it quite clear, since some of your locks came when you Godwin'd the thread.

4dehorde의 댓글

Again, who are you describing? You clearly have no clue about me, or are more likely just lying about me again. Whenever I refute your bias you make up lies about me to try and discredit me, and its getting very old.

Adamsm의 댓글

Lol, you are kidding right? With the 3K website rep, I can see all of your deleted comments right here in this section.

4dehorde의 댓글

So now your not only refusing to back up your own words but are denying them outright? It doesn't work that way. You can't say one thing and then turn around and say something else. You respect the Horde? Then what was that about you wishing SI:7 was successful in capturing/killing Thrall? How about you denying the Taurajo Massacre and making the killers out to be heroes? What was that about you commenting that Windrunner should have killed Vol'jin rather than work with him? When your own words contradict you, you really have nothing left.

Your twisting my words again. I made the legit comparrison but never called anyone anything. Nice try, kid.

4dehorde의 댓글

Then you can see for yourself its not true. You think your big rep scares me? Having something you did not earn is not intimidating.

Adamsm의 댓글

Then you can see for yourself its not true. You think your big rep scares me? Having something you did not earn is not intimidating.

Well on this page alone you have deleted 22 comments; most of those were reposts of the same thing after they received a down vote.

4dehorde의 댓글

Once again, your word is not supreme. Without proof you are nothing more than an exposed liar again.

Adamsm의 댓글

......Da hell? I've never said any of that crazy talk. Wow, you really are deluded aren't you? You feel the need to make *!@# up eh?

Edit: No, actually you compared the Alliance to the Nazi's, which is the Law of Godwining a thread. But you win for madness.

4dehorde의 댓글

I find it quite amusing you took the time to delete all the posts where you said those things before posting your last one. Trying to cover your tracks, eh?

Your still trying this? Give it up already, twisting my words is not working for you.

Adamsm의 댓글

Once again, your word is not supreme. Without proof you are nothing more than an exposed liar again.

Dude, anyone with the rep can see all of the deleted posts you've done; they don't magically disappear.

Adamsm의 댓글

I don't delete posts because I'm losing.

Edit: That's your game my fine biased friend. Also, brain trust? You can't delete posts in a locked topic.

4dehorde의 댓글

I don't delete them either, so you can stop bringing it up. You did however delete those posts where your ugly bias was out in the open. When I called you out on your own words you chose to erase them rather than face the issue. Truly cowardly.

Adamsm의 댓글

Oh but you do; and we have the evidence to see it. Have a happy day.

4dehorde의 댓글

They don't see them considering the fact that there aren't any, period. You are not going to win this.

4dehorde의 댓글

Oh but I don't, and you have no evidence at all. Given your nature, you'll understand if I don't wish you anything good.

4dehorde의 댓글

Whack-A-Pygmy anyone?

Adamsm의 댓글

Actually, we have a lot of evidence:

1. Your comment tab shows 500 comments total posted, with only 57 there.

2. Like I've been saying about Wowhead rep: anyone with the appropriate amount can see all of the deleted posts from you.

3. I could actually go along and quote it all for you if you'd like.

Edit: Oh look! 13 minutes ago you posted a comment but just deleted it at a -1 rating right above my comment wishing you a happy day!

Just to prove that we can still quote your deletes. Have a super day 4dehorde.

Adamsm의 댓글

Lol, you keep telling yourself.

Edit: By the way, can see all your newest deletes; trying to make it look like I've been arguing with myself right?

Edit 2: I love the Wowhead Rep I've got, since I can just add your deleted comments into a quote.

4dehorde의 댓글

This must be a big thing in your lack of a life if you are willing to sink so deep for it. Yeah, I have posted over 500 comments. As if that means anything. There are these people called moderaters and admins who patrol sites such as these and delete what they want. Is that really news to you, or are you just faking being stupid? If you really want to pull up every last one of my deleted comments, go ahead. In the meantime I'll just get back to this thing I have that you don't, its called a life. I've already explained to you your efforts here mean nothing. You can make any wild accusation you want, but without any real proof it will never be taken seriously. Finally, I see you quoted something of mine an admin deleted. Your little lie that I did it is just that, a little lie, which you can add to your pile.

I think that explains everything. So, are you going to cut the crap, or shall you continue humiliating yourself? I can go either way. Whatever you do makes no difference to me, because at the end of the day, I've said what needed to be said, I've presented my arguments, the truth and the facts, and all you can do is cry, whine, and deny every truth.

4dehorde의 댓글

I don't have to tell myself anything, your own folly is my reward. Again, your claiming I delete when you have no proof. EVERYTHING you have EVER said has no proof, so this isn't a surprise. You can have all the pride you want, but like I said, your folly is my reward. The saying goes pride comes before the fall.

4dehorde의 댓글

Ever heard the famous quote "Those who are wrong are always so sure they are right." Adamsm? You truly are the perfect example.

UrAgahn의 댓글

4dehorde, your efforts are futile. Being a user with high enough reputation myself, seeing all the reposts you have done, I confirm everything Adams has said and name you a liar.

Monday의 댓글

While the comment I'm replying to hasn't been deleted, yet, if you delete a comment, users with high enough rep will see a big (Deleted) tag next to the comment. Not (Purged) which would mean it was downvoted enough, but (Deleted) which means you phyiscally went and clicked the delete button on the comment.

But guess what? I have the rep to see deleted comments. Want some proof?

Damn, that's a lot of (Deleted) tags.

You know what? Just for the hell of it: Here's another screenshot of your downrated comments that you deleted and reposted.

Monday의 댓글

Seconded.

Atik의 댓글

Ever heard the famous quote "Those who are wrong are always so sure they are right." Adamsm? You truly are the perfect example.

I'm pretty sure you just made that up, and should stop while you're behind.

Arguing with Adams is a bad idea to begin with. But losing as poorly as you have is just sad....

Please stop so we can all get on with our lives.

Adamsm의 댓글

Aw, thanks guys.

Adamsm의 댓글

I've presented my arguments, the truth and the facts,

Dude, if you ever put the truth, Wowhead would explode. Alos, just noticed that:

Finally, I see you quoted something of mine an admin deleted. Your little lie that I did it is just that, a little lie, which you can add to your pile.

Hey uh 4dehorde....there's a tag on every deleted comment, which says who deleted it; and all of these ones here on the page? They all say you deleted the comments and the one you say was done by an admin has this at the bottom: Deleted by 4dehorde 10 hr 41 min ago (Patch 4.2.2). So, continue to live in the tiny world you do, but the logic and truth here on the site will always prove you wrong. Hurrah and have a nice day!

Heck, in this topic alone, you haven't been speaking the truth since day one, since you made up that quote. Normally I'm not a fan of Fojar38 and his posting style, but he caught you in the out right lie right there; and then of course, you delete and repost about how everyone but you is wrong and lying...yeah.....

Random0008의 댓글

Umm, yeah, they're kinda right.

http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af267/Luked458/4dehorde-1.jpg

4dehorde의 댓글

I am sick of you freaks. Your all the same. The very second someone offers opinions that are not your own, you explode and throw childish fits. Your arrogance is making me ill.

UrAgahn, you have no proof at all. Just like Adamsm, you are making a wild accusation with no proof. So you cannot confirm me as a liar, not when you just proved you are one yourself.

Funden, you've always been so quick to rush to Adamsm's aid. Excuse me if I don't take the word of a lapdog.

Muscleman, very clever, but I can tell when something is photoshopped.

Atik, its an old, common quote, so no I did not make it up as you claim. You are incorrect in saying I am losing badly. It is he and his friends who are losing badly, reduced to making up lies about me to counter my truth.

I am tired of you fools and morons. Childish pathetic losers, the lot of you. But you know what? I will take your advice. I am quitting while I am ahead.

I have done what needed to be done. I can walk away now in victory with my head held high. I'm off to find civilized people to have a sensible discussion with, something none of you are capable of.

Adamsm의 댓글

That's not photoshopped, but if you want to run, run away 4dehorde, like a dog who got whipped.

And no, you aren't capable of a sensible discussion; every single thing you post proves the opposite of that. And you are the one who is deleting your own posts in a fit of childish tantrum there buddy. Have a super day.

Edit: In other words, just give it up: You've been proven that you are lying and have freaked out, just accept it and get on with your life.

UrAgahn의 댓글

You know, it is very, very mature of you indeed. I'm just beginning to wonder how long does it take to step through that imaginary doorway if you litter so many insults on your way out.

Atik의 댓글

LOL!

Please. Stop. Can't breath.

Monday의 댓글

Oh my God, more comedy gold. I love how, when shown actual proof, you assume photoshop.

Really?

You really think you care that much to us? We're not going to fabricate evidence against you. Oh no, you've given us enough yourself.

Don't let the door hit you on the way out!

OverZealous의 댓글

Guys; I really don't think this is the appropriate place for this. By all means, downrate misinformation, but I see no reason to fill the page with comments that have very little to do with what the page in question is about.

Karob의 댓글

Sylvanas is actually worse than Arthas, her army commits the same sort of abominations under their free will. Also Koltira was a Blood Elf, Thassarian says so.

Lostelf의 댓글

Anyone know if thus quest resets if you transfer from horde to alliance ? i want that chillwind staff but my warlock did the horde questline :S

Boxofbeer의 댓글

Alas, Andorhal http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTeI5VvyiBM

bebita의 댓글

Alas, Andorhal https://youtu.be/qKoPOGyirRk

micheey의 댓글

Soo what is it now.. Thassarian said he would travel to Tirisfal and have a meeting with Sylvanas. Does anyone know what happened after all this with Thassarian and is Koltira free again?

machina2413의 댓글

Sample video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2yABrN7bgY

999mal의 댓글

As a frost mage I received all three appearances after choosing.

rowain의 댓글

So, I just completed this quest chain on my level 70 Worgen Mage and was only offered the Chillwind Tunic as a reward. The entire reason I undertook this quest chain was to obtain the Chillwind Staff for transmogrification. Any idea why I wasn't offered the staff? I'm guessing it is because of the agility stats on the staff.

I'm going to try it again on a feral druid and see if the staff is offered.

Edit: Finished it on my druid and received the Chillwind Staff. Also unlocked the transmog for the Chillwind Pants. Leggings. Whatever. :)

Noctula의 댓글

If you don't see this quest because you do them with a boosted alt or a char that was levelled on the Horde side, just pick up the first quests offered at Chillwind camp. I had to do 30 quests before this quest was offered. You can skip the quests 'Northridge lumber mill', 'A different approach' and 'Into the woods'.

링크

아, 안돌할이여

사령관 아쉬람 발러피스트에게 안돌할 전투에서 일어났던 일들을 보고해야 합니다.

서술

어서 남쪽의 서리바람 야영지로 가서 그곳에 계신 아쉬람 발러피스트 사령관님께 이곳에서 일어난 모든 일을 전해주시오.

나 말이오? 나는 서쪽에 있는 티리스팔로 가겠소.

내 전투는 아직 끝나지 않았소. 스스로 밴시 여왕이라고 부르는 그 잔인한 여자와 볼일이 있소... 그리고 그 밴시 여왕이 콜티라에게 무슨 짓을 했는지도 알아내는 중이오.