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This ability can no longer deal counterattacks to enemies attacking from behind, making it less viable for PvP, as most melee PvPers try to stay behind their target.

However, if you can back yourself into a wall, it's an excellent tool for PvE

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Also Retaliation is good when you are facing multiple creatures and also is good with PvP like Everclarity said.

6861의 댓글

this has saved me many times in pve, and pvp. an excellent warrior ability

33684의 댓글

Excellent for solo PvE leveling. Makes group quests with multiple mobs easily solo'able.

Or in instances, when there's a mob of ...mobs attacking your group, hit challenging shout followed by Retaliation.

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When you use this in a PvE Situation, this flags you with a big sign that says "Don't hit me and run the hell away!" Of course if you're using a slow strong weapon and you're fighting against a dagger rogue, you will do incredible amounts of damage but only if they attack you(They'll just vanish until the duration is over)
I recommend recklessness for PvP over Retaliation.

doublediamond410의 댓글

Stacks to incredible effect with Cleave and Sweeping Strikes. Start with a Challenging Shout and you've got a 1-2-3 for the win in PvE.

I've used this countless times in a dungeon when the party was getting wiped by melee mobs and it literally saved us all.

165025의 댓글

Tried this on Prince during phase 2 when he uses his axes.
Can tell you all this, the only time I counterattacked with this ability was when I either got hit or blocked the attacks.

So if you parry or dodge the attack this one will not do a thing.

Gecco의 댓글

Will a retaliation work against another retaliation?
Will 2 warriors with retaliation active supersmacking eachother? :P

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The following was respectfully stolen from TankingTips.com

Now unless you’ve been under a rock the last while, you’ve no doubt noticed that Shield Wall went from having a 30 minute cooldown to having a 5 minute cooldown along with Retaliation and Recklessness. What you may not know is that whereas in the past these all shared the same cooldown making it so you’d never use Retaliation and Recklessness, now they don’t and as a result, you should be using them.

Retaliation

The safer of the two, once you’ve loaded up the boss with 5 Sunders this ability can give you a nice burst of damage. A word of caution though, the majority of bosses when parrying one of your attacks will have their own attack sped up. The result is you could be creating a lot of potential burst damage on yourself by using this if your Expertise Skill is low. Ultimately though for farming, there’s really no reason not to use it all the time.

Retaliation Macro
# show Retaliation
/cast Retaliation; Battle Stance
/cast Defensive Stance

Recklessness

Despite being far, far more dangerous to use than Retaliation, Recklessness still has a place outside guaranteeing you get to test a huge Shield Slam crit on a critter. 3 guaranteed crits is a ton of damage and is especially useful if you’re currently keeping the mob stun locked. In order to aid in making Recklessness safer to use, I like to use Shield Block with it as well.

Recklessness Macro
# show Recklessness
/cast Shield Block
/cast Recklessness; Berserker Stance
/cast Defensive Stance

I have to admit though, Shield Block hasn’t been added purely for security, it’s also there because I want the Shield Slam that I’ll use to Crit for as much as possible. Just as importantly as well, Damaging Shield will actually Crit every single time when Recklessness is active and not even consume a charge.

Identify and Execute

Set up both of the above macros and take the time to Identify when you can Execute them in a fight. It’s not always going to make sense to use both or even one of these macros every fight, but it will in a lot of fights and there’s no denying the DPS edge they’ll provide. Ultimately, use them early, use them often so you can use them the maximum number of times.

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I have a question too, if your dual weilding as a warrior, (my warrior is only 21 ATM, so no beserker stance yet), will it counterattack with just your main, or with both weapons?

Based on precedent i'd expect just the main, but t isn't clear.

138573의 댓글

can counterattack while cced?

120209의 댓글

Great for PVP if you're up against... Iono. Blind peps? The animation is basically a giant DO NOT TOUCH sign with flashing neon letters.

58098의 댓글

I noticed this wasn't mentioned.

You can use this before Bladestorming and you will retaliate people in it. Best scenario I've seen it used in is an enemy warrior Bladestorms you and you pop Retaliaton and Bladestorm. Outcome is that they will either cancel their Bladestorm (which they usually don't react fast enough to do), or they get cleaved faster then you will be.

426611의 댓글

Use with sweeping strikes and bladestorm for awsomeness.

Westy543의 댓글

I also get this on my Death Knight, although it just increases strength by 120 for 10 seconds. I couldn't find it on WoW Head or WoW Wiki, though. Not sure where it comes from, but it might be parrying.

Feel free to down vote this, but please link me to the proper page if you do so.

Thottbot의 댓글

This skill also has a hidden proc. Using this skill in battlegrounds vs rogues has a 76% chance of them making an alt to call you a cheater.

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I (lvl 41) have to agree, on Warsong in melee with a rogue 2 levels higher - after a swift exchange of blows I was down to 2/5 health while the horde rogue was 1/2 health...fearing an imminent death coming, I bust out this move and literally after 2 seconds I saw him spin round and die.

I think we were both as shocked as each other. Its now my favourite move :D

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Too bad it is a 30 min cooldown :( .

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I just killed a lvl ? rogue with this! Rogues hit so fast but weak, this make us hit fast and HARD. It rules!

Thottbot의 댓글

so...the weapon speed doesnt change anything with this...2 handed weapons preffered then

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Retaliation is a great life-saver. The cooldown is pretty chunky, so only use when really needed. But, if you're getting ganged by 5 enemies, you can count on Retaliation to bash them quite well for 15 seconds, or 30 attacks, whichever comes first. This would also be good against dual-weilders. Plus, with no rage requirement, you can whip it out right away.
Just watch out for backstabbings.

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do stuns interrupt this?

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this move basically swings your melee weapon whenever the other guy hits you. this is why it rules v rogues because they hit constantly and with a 2 hander with high damage per swing its even better.

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so you do it, and whenever someone hits you it hits back auto?

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1.9 made Retalliate a bit NERFED....now you actually show your enemy (HORDE in my case) that your retalliating so they know not to attack you and to run from ya for 15 seconds...kinda gay

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If you are duel wielding does this do damage with both your weapons you attack with? I can't tell if it's only using the main weapon or both the main and the offhand.

I'm pretty sure if somebody's attacking you with 2 weapons at once you do damage back for each weapon that comes at you.

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Does this have some sort of hidden chance to dodge attached to it? Also, it seems like sometimes it does not return damage to the opponent. Most times that I activate it just to test it against mobs that only do close-range combat, either I start dodging and never get hit for 15 seconds, or it just never does the damage. I checked my combat bar and it's not giving them damage without the animation or anything...

I'm 24, and thus far I've gotten it to work ONCE. But when it did, it looked sickeningly beautiful.

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Every single time I have MC'd a warrior with the gnomish cap it has wasted his or her cooldown. Great fun.

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does this skill share cooldown with anything ? it keeps resetting when im playing PVE and i had no idea why until i read the above post. is it just mind control that resets it or anything else ?

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Dual wielding is not the best for this skill, a 3.80 speed 2hander is really the best choice and it can crit, which will make a lot ouches.

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Some lvl 38 tauren druid decided to camp my dead body when I was 32. Spawn, charge, retaliation, overpower, the druid died within seconds. I had 1/3 hp left when the druid died. Retaliation rocks. I subsequently camped his body in turn.

Thottbot의 댓글

an I-win button against most melee once every 30min

killed a 60 combat human rogue as a 51 warr

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This skill has been nerfed big time in PvP. The 30-hit limit is meaningless. Who's going to be able to withstand 30 hits with your 2H axe with his limbs still intact? The real killer is that those spinning swords that pop out when you use this skill make it obvious to your opponent that it's time to elude you for the next 15 seconds either by stunning, disorienting, fearing, vanishing, running away, or whatever it takes. If your opponent is not hitting you, you're not doing any extra damage. If he choses to run from you, you can't switch out of Battle Stance to intercept him, otherwise your Retaliation will be nullified. This is totally useless in PvP now except maybe if you want to turn around and kill the hunter's pet (as I have done a few times before).

This used to be so much fun against rogues. I would put this up during the middle of the fight when they least expect it (as most people would try to anticipate it in the beginning of the fight), and within a few seconds, the fool turns around and kisses the dirt before knowing what hit him. One time I was grouped with a 47 warlock (I was 47 orc warrior). Some ? night elf rogue murdered the warlock almost instantly, taking little or no damage. So then it was my turn. It was a quick fight. The result was an 800 crit execute. Another interesting thing I discovered was that while I was fighting another ? rogue, he used Kidney Shot on me while my Retaliation was active (I don't think he knew it though), but while I was stunned, he attacked me face-to-face, and I was still hitting him back with Retaliation. Needless to say, I won.

I've owned many a rogues with this skill simply due to the surprise factor. But now, you get laughed when your opponent sees those spinning swords around you. I beat a warrior as a rogue in a duel while we were in our 20s. I was a few levels higher though, so I was owning him. He then busted out those spinning swords. I simply turned around, vanished, and walked some distance away. He spent the next 15 seconds looking for me. Finally he gave up and started to bandage himself. That's when I put my finishing touches to my owning.

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When the warrior uses this you can do lots of things as a rogue against it:
blind
vanish
stunlock him and attack him in his back (CS + Gouge + Kidney shot is enough)

it's just so NERFED in pvp it'only usable against noobs who dont know what the spinning swords mean.

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What's wrong with you guys? This skill isn't mad efor Pvp, use it in PvE and level up faster, kill more, grind better ! and solo 2elites of same level at same time.

Who said this was a skill only usable in PvP?

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thats so true, this ability is simply amazing, if the cooldown was shorter warrior's would be invincible to all malee based classes. i was in ab, got jumped by a druid,rouge, mage and hunter. although i died, i took with me the rouge and druid who was in bear form.

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This, Shield Wall and Recklessness are what i like to think of as a warrior's 'emergency skills' which all share the same half an hour cooldown. CAUTION: These skills are VERY situational and you don't want to waste one and later discover you need it even more.

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you are right m8, using this in pvp against a rouge if the rouge knows what they are doing (as an aside if some one doges me i love it, overpower 50% chance to crit with my nice big sword AND i can use it while ret is on so doge wont help you, vanish and walk away will. Just read that there are talents in BC that reduce your cool down of ret by 15 MINS WOOT, go the mighty arms warrior

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I was playing my L28 Mage in Blackfathom Deep. We had a L27 Warrior and a L33 Priest and couldn't find any more group members.

I thought we could handle it, so in we go. They were both new to the instance, but I lead them along nicely and we progressed well (1 death, the overzaelous Shadow Priest).

Then between Gha'moora and the Twilight Temple we suddenly overpulled (didn't see who or why). We had like 5 or 6 Naga beating down the warrior and suddenly I saw them all running away ... Feared. The warrior had used Intimidating Shout. I was thinking 'Noooooo, no fear in instances'.

When the fear broke they all ran back to the warrior. Several seconds later the priest popped Psychic Scream. More naga run back and forth. And just when I thought we were done for the tide was turning. The warrior was WTFBBQPWNing the Naga left and right and we made it out in one piece, no deaths.

When it was done he just said "I used retaliation".

I was like "no $%^&, that was awesome".

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Lol, a rogue with 100% dodge rate against a warr is still dead. See counteratack cannot be blocked, dodged or parried. So everytime the rogue dodge it will be folowed by an instant strike. A warr will be able to counter atack a rogue with 100% dodge chance the same ammount the retalliation and he's normal atacks hit.

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hey i've been wondering, do u take dmg if u have retaliation on?

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I roled a warrior on a trial acount just to have some fun at lvl 19 bg...
(my lvl 60 shaman is without payment from tbc... was gething flustraiting in pvp wich is the thing i LOVE in WoW, besides i had to chose how to spend my money, to party or to play ;)
back on topic, i lvld him and playd at 19 a bit but i had bad luck with drops so only 4 blues... so i did sfk and the duskbringer droped. I decided to lvl to 20 and i geered more in inctances had 2 days trial more when beaing full blue ^^ no enchants ofc. these skill is a good mode. I soloed a lvl 29 rogue and a 27 hunter the hunter had the flag i jumped them with a granade and when the stun ended i poped it mmmm these numbers orgazzzm they bouth were DW so they never knew what hit them ;) damn they were pissed... kiled me like 13 times in that bg..

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In Arathi Highlands, there is this ally quest where you need to kill the Forsaken Courier and take his letter. He/her is lvl 35 and have 4 guards around her, all lvl 34-35. I was lvl 33 at the time, but had no group. I charged in to the middle of the group, popped this, Thunder clap and Demo shout. I was fury spec with 2h and normally spammed imp. slam (<3).
I was shocked about how fast they all went down, and how much HP I had when I was done killing them all! :D It's a really great ability, but with a veeery long cooldown. In fact, its so long, that I never use it, because I save it for emergencies x)

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as a rogue, i attack right thru this and its never really given me any problems, sure my health goes down a lil faster but thats what blind+bandage/gouge/vanish+sap is for.

Allakhazam의 댓글

hehe, this is for me the most powerful spell on WoW for my warrior !

When u are fighting a melee combat in duel :

Just use a high-end 2h weapon and then put on Retaliation ! Insane much dmg in 10 sec, etremely fast with high dmg !

I did it with my lvl 38 warrior vs a lvl 43 pally and killed him like nothing !

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Yeah, especially damn bugs with scorpids in Field of Giants

Allakhazam의 댓글

this skill realy can do some ugly damage .
i ran into a room of mobs , cause i was thinking , that there should be only 2 ..... there where actually 5 . after starting this skill , they dropped like flys (they where 1 level below me) .
while looting the corpses , i did see , that one was actually a named , that was 1 level above me ;) .
(the mobs where pretty fast hitting , so they actually killed themselve in the short time , that this skill lastet .)

Edited, Mon Mar 28 02:38:43 2005

Allakhazam의 댓글

Where do I get this spell? I looked at the trainer and i looked at all my talents and i still can't find it! I am higher than 20 so I should be able to get it. Is there a quest or somthing that I need to do?

Allakhazam의 댓글

i was bored to death so i made my own private server, was fun tbh.. so i had a warrior and went to solo kara, and when i got there i thought 'oh wow, i could gather up millions of mobs and then use retaliation,' so i did, and when the moment came and i used it nothing happened, then i read the description on the spell and saw that it counterattacks melee hits, and then i remembered that mobs in kara use their hands... :O

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I killed a $%^&ing level ? rouge with this skill. ;D

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